JGard

yes, they are different. You're better off NOT using what you have in your transmission.

plokivos

i just would like to put my 2 cents in this.

Most likely it's your gear, and not the oil.

If it was the oil, you'll have rough time shifting, which is the case here, but the most important part of this is that you can't get into the gear and 2nd gear is clunking.

There should be no problem whatsoever putting the gear into 1st gear(gear without the syncromesh) if you do not have gear problems. Clunking means your syncromesh is not working correctly or your gear is worned out or missing some teeth or both.

Usually when you start breaking the gear tooth or the gear tooth is worned, that would happen or something else seriously wrong with the transmission. In the worst cases I've seen, when the transmission breaks, you can't get into the gears at all or it'll be hard to move the shifter to a neutral position. there will be no recoil to the middle.

You have to remember that the nature of the tranmission is that when one gear goes wrong, all the rest of the gears will go back eventually.

Changing the fluid will solve the surface of the problem but in order for you to not worry about this, you'll need to take the transmission out and make sure that there is no problem with the gears itself.

I would suggest looking at the transmission oil when you drain them out to see any shavings. If there are shavings, you need to have the transmission rebuilt or change the gears out.

PeterMM

cheers guys, il try begging mr. honda to sell me some of his MTF and see if that sorts it before i go ordering the clutch il let you know how i get on.