VTEC Issues
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I mentioned that quite a few members on the boards here have stated that they do not feel a pronounced VTEC kick...
Here ya go. This is what I based my opinion on originally
I suppose they're ALL liers.
Originally Posted by Elistan,Jan 7 2002, 07:24 AM
When dealing with people's perceptions, there's always an amazing possibility for error. It's not the engines that are different, it's the people.
Originally Posted by Iceman,Jan 24 2003, 02:29 PM
If your friends S2000 is an '00 or '01, the VTEC may feel more pronounced. I believe they smoothed out the transition in 02.
Originally Posted by bbrontosaurus,Oct 18 2003, 07:56 PM
Hrmm...so far, everyone who has driven the 04 seems to be saying the same thing: no dramtic VTEC crossover.
Originally Posted by rworne,Oct 18 2003, 08:17 PM
My '03 had no noticeable VTEC crossover but it was still doing VTEC.
To get the "kick" I now need to go WOT to get the familiar pull.. The '04s could be doing the same.
To get the "kick" I now need to go WOT to get the familiar pull.. The '04s could be doing the same.
Originally Posted by JamesB,Oct 18 2003, 11:11 PM
You will not notice vtec kick in as much on the 04 because there is more low end power.
Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Oct 18 2003, 11:45 PM
throughout the years of experience honda had with vtec motors, they've probably mastered it to the point where they can tune it to maximize power and torque throughout the powerband, while still remain low emission and fuel economical. in fact, one of the major thing i noticed about the f20 after i bought my MY02 s2000 was that the powerband was way more "linear" without the noticeable kick than i was accustomed to with my encouters with past vtec motors--h22a, b18c, b16a, etc. and to hear that vtec crossover is even more unnoticeable on the new 2.2L motor does not surprise me at all. in fact, it's actually a good thing to not have the "kick"...
Originally Posted by AndyS2,Oct 19 2003, 10:47 AM
everyone says, you cant hear the vtec cam come in.
Originally Posted by cheshire_carper,Apr 3 2004, 10:11 PM
the engine mgmt/mapping provides a much less pronounced x-over on the 04. Its approach is far more linear.
Originally Posted by ACLR8,Jun 27 2004, 09:02 AM
although the '04 is very powerful (it seems from dynos that a stock '04 puts more hp to the wheels than previous years) the VTEC engagement is not a pronounced. HONDA made a conscious effort to do this to make the '04 more civilized.
many years of Prelude actually had a much more pronounced VTEC "kick" than the S.
Just to give you an idea. I am sure nothing is wrong.
many years of Prelude actually had a much more pronounced VTEC "kick" than the S.
Just to give you an idea. I am sure nothing is wrong.
Originally Posted by DaveOnLI,Jun 27 2004, 09:08 AM
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VTEC is not as pronounced in an '04
VTEC is not as pronounced in an '04
Originally Posted by Johnny--2K,Jan 24 2003, 03:10 PM
it vtecs, but not noticeable, or loud.....very smooth, I sometimes take it easy to about 7000 or 7500 then mash it....coolest feeling in the world
Originally Posted by Ganthet,Aug 26 2003, 05:00 AM
I notice my Vtec, but its not like a turbo boost where you get thrown out of your seat. You should feel something but its not like hitting a nitrous button like in the movies. I notice mine much more in the lower gears and if I am climbing steadily instead of suddenly mashing the gas pedal. With steady acceleration, I feel a bit of a kick when it engages but, again, its not going to give you whiplash
people on the various forums romanticizing Vtec like its a nearly orgasmic experience
people on the various forums romanticizing Vtec like its a nearly orgasmic experience
Originally Posted by CBeyond,Jan 27 2003, 10:57 AM
I have to agree with what's been posted above. The VTEC transition has never been very noticable to me.
Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy,Mar 27 2003, 08:36 AM
Mine kicks in at 6K but it's not all that noticable. You can hear a slight difference but not much seat of the pants difference. People rave about it like it's a turbo kicking in or something. I've never driven a VTEC car that feels like a turbo kicking in. You can't feel or even hear it kick in on an NSX.
Originally Posted by timbean,Mar 27 2003, 07:10 PM
Vtec never blew me away. Probably due to lack of torque (kick).
Originally Posted by Purple Haze,Jun 27 2004, 04:05 AM
Hi. Whenever I take my car above 6k, I can't really feel or notice the VTEC "kick" everybody talks about. I drive an 04 with 2,000 miles. The car gets louder at this rpm, and faster, but I can't feel anything "engage."
I think it's safe to assume that there's nothing profoundly wrong with my brand new S2000.
I think it's safe to assume that there's nothing profoundly wrong with my brand new S2000.
Originally Posted by anarky,Jun 27 2004, 04:12 AM
If you are expecting to be puched back in the seat and your hair to be blown off of your head going into VTEC then you're going to be disappointed. 
The louder sound that you hear is the VTEC cam engagement and it is at 6000 RPM. The "kick" is a little subtle but can be more pronounced in the lower gears.
PS...the feeling will not be as pronounced if you are not fully on the accelerator. Hope this helps.
The louder sound that you hear is the VTEC cam engagement and it is at 6000 RPM. The "kick" is a little subtle but can be more pronounced in the lower gears.
PS...the feeling will not be as pronounced if you are not fully on the accelerator. Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Shinji,Mar 12 2002, 10:20 PM
From what I've been hearing from other members it seems like VTEC is very noticable but I really don't feel that tug whatsoever.
Originally Posted by greybeard,Jan 24 2003, 02:32 PM
the transition on my car seems to be dependant on throttle position.......it is much more dramatic with the pedal on the floor, as opposed to just easing through 6000 -7000 rpm........
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Then I came across these posts. This confirms my statement along with my own experiences.
Originally Posted by hawkdog,Jun 5 2004, 03:51 PM
I was driving home today and I know I'm not supposed to do this, but I tried to VTEC before the car was completely warmed up.
I don't know what the heck happened, but it seemed that the VTEC did not kick in when it was supposed to at about 6000 RPM. Basically what happened was that the car went up to about 6600 RPM (without VTEC) and then it felt like it was hitting a rev-limiter or fuel cutoff.
I don't know what the heck happened, but it seemed that the VTEC did not kick in when it was supposed to at about 6000 RPM. Basically what happened was that the car went up to about 6600 RPM (without VTEC) and then it felt like it was hitting a rev-limiter or fuel cutoff.
Originally Posted by Ckcrigger,Jun 6 2004, 12:22 AM
Funny, a couple years ago I was test-driving a used 01... at an Infiniti dealer... I didn't know what VTEC was, but had read that it "kicked in" after 6000rpm. Pushed the cold car up to 6000rpm... and grrrraaackkkk! Hit the cold rev limiter. I was like "WTF was that?"
The salesman had no clue about the limiter either and couldn't explain what had happened...
The salesman had no clue about the limiter either and couldn't explain what had happened...
Originally Posted by umvue,Aug 12 2001, 07:45 AM
Recently, I occasionally have problem with VTEC. Sometimes when it goes to 6000rpm, it just bounces back and forth even if I floor the gas pedal.
Later I suspect it might be related to the engine coolant temperature. So I tried to VTEC at different number of bars at the coolant temp gauge.
It seems to me the problem happens when there is only one bar at the gauge. Does that mean the engine needs warm up to engage VTEC?
Later I suspect it might be related to the engine coolant temperature. So I tried to VTEC at different number of bars at the coolant temp gauge.
It seems to me the problem happens when there is only one bar at the gauge. Does that mean the engine needs warm up to engage VTEC?
[QUOTE=Utah S2K,Aug 12 2001, 08:37 AM]Honda has built several temperature related protection devices on the engine. Previous posters are correct, without three bars, when you hit VTEC the fuel will shut off
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Map sensor issues
Originally Posted by michaelg,Apr 3 2004, 09:54 PM
Just passed 1300 miles, and completeley lost VTEC push, when i get to 6000 the noise was there but no VTEC push to 8000 just a linear increase in power
Originally Posted by Putney,Apr 8 2004, 09:28 AM
My map sensor failed. the car wouldn't VTEC or rev up fast and was jumpy. after I removed the map sensor and bonked it with a rubber mallet it work slightly better but the VTEC was smooth. followed the same process again and it was back to normal.
Originally Posted by Asterix,Oct 18 2005, 02:11 PM
I reset my ECU tonight following the instructions and gave the MAP sensor a nice tap with the end of a 5 cell maglight.
Seems to pull much better between 4-6k and then goes like a Latvian hooker being paid by the minute from 6k onwards.
Seems to pull much better between 4-6k and then goes like a Latvian hooker being paid by the minute from 6k onwards.
Originally Posted by Spanners,Apr 4 2004, 12:37 AM
There is at least one thread describing how to make the MAP sensor work, which Chesh has mentioned. I have not experienced this problem, but my memory of the stories is complete loss of the transition to VTEC followed by full restoration of VTEC once MAP sensor has 'the treatment'.
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s2000Junky, you dug yourself into a pretty deep hole. You started it.
The opinions and information that I have posted in this thread have come right here off of this site, in the form of knowedge and experiences of other members.
Dont accuse me of pushing BS, take your garbage somewhere else. stop giving FALSE information
I base my opinions on my experiences as well as the experiences of some very knowledgable members on this site.
unless you have a CAI, the sound of VTEC is not that pronounced. Thats not theory
VTEC has never malfunctioned in my S2000, or my Del Sol. My Del Sol had 140k hard miles on it when I sold it. That car lived at 8,200 rpm's. Thats not thoery, thats experience and actual fact. You have never stated any hard facts, or experience to back up your own opinion or to justify any of your statements, but you accuse me of speaking out of "theory", and not having hard facts and/or experience, when the fact is, I do have fact's. Fact's that come from this very site that you refur to as a "rut" I also speak from experience. Your behavior has been unappropriate. You have contributed absolutely NOTHING to this thread.
Of all the dyno sessions I have ever been to, not once did VTEC not function. A butt dyno proves nothing. A dyno sheet does. EVERY single dyno I have ever seen, with the exeption of modified cars, shows VTEC engaging at 5,850 rpm, with a noticlable spike.
A dyno sheet doensn't lie.
I also based my opinions and comments on the fact that there are numorous members on the boards here that have stated that they don't experience a substantial "kick" when VTEC engages.
Thats why I told jbeni96 that his car was fine.
There has been no hard fact shown, that VTEC not engaging is the cause for jbeni96's car being sluggish. I base my opinions and comments on experience's from myself, and many, many knowledgable members here on the board.
You started it, you asked for it, now do us all a favor and take a long walk off of a short pier.
Your a complete tool, and a troll.
Nuff said.
No hard feelings huh?
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Question for jbeni96, Are you flooring it when reving past 6k?
VTEC would not just "stop" working unless there was something wrong with the car. If the map sensor was not working, there could be a lean condition, which could lead to premature engine wear.
The AP2's have more usable torque at a lower rpm than an AP1. Thats why VTEC isn't as pronounced in an AP2. (This also supports what I said about there being nothing wrong with your VTEC)
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This thread went to shit.
No need for further posting, I proved my point.
If you guys want to associate with an unpleasant individual whom refurs to this site as a "rut", and can't even bother to perform simple punctuation....
I'm done with this thread.
It's people like this is why xviper left.
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Originally Posted by RACER,Dec 15 2007, 05:10 PM
This thread went to shit.
No need for further posting, I proved my point.
If you guys want to assosiate with an unpleasant individual whom refurs to this site as a "rut", and can't even bother to perform simple punctuation....
I'm done with this thread.
It's people like this is why xviper left.
No need for further posting, I proved my point.
If you guys want to assosiate with an unpleasant individual whom refurs to this site as a "rut", and can't even bother to perform simple punctuation....
I'm done with this thread.
It's people like this is why xviper left.
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I think I have similiar problems as jbeni96
When I VTEC at gears 2 3 and 4 I can FEEl the vtec at about 6200rpms...
Whereas when i thrash it on gear 1... I only feel the VTEC (the PUSH) at about 8000rpms...
My car has about 30000kms and is due for a service this thursday... do u guys think the Honda ppl can do anything to help? Or would they just take my car out for a joyride.
When I VTEC at gears 2 3 and 4 I can FEEl the vtec at about 6200rpms...
Whereas when i thrash it on gear 1... I only feel the VTEC (the PUSH) at about 8000rpms...
My car has about 30000kms and is due for a service this thursday... do u guys think the Honda ppl can do anything to help? Or would they just take my car out for a joyride.