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Old May 9, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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The part you want is part #8 and includes everything inside the box that "8" points to ............ http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...DER+%28+04-%29
Part #6,7 9,19 are all salvageable off the old part. $82.02 + shipping but your dealer shouldn't be much more than this. So based on your original estimate given by your dealer, they are going to charge you up to $600.00 to do the work.
Doing only the fluid isn't a big job but it does involve a couple of "tricks" to make it go properly. Please have a look at my write up for those little hints.
http://forums.s2kca.com/showthread.p...ch-fluid-bleed
http://forums.s2kca.com/showthread.p...-How-To-Change
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Old May 9, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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Dean, the first place I looked for parts was Majestic Honda (hondaautomotiveparts.com)so I just went back and put in the info for my S. There are 20 parts they list for the CMC from 82.02 down to 28 cents with a total of 226.70. Maybe they used parts from your old one, like a cap which isn't going to wear out. I see the 82.02 and the slave cylinder for 58.38 that you referred to. We're talking the same this then, I just added all 20 parts up for my total.
I'll probably wind up ordering from them, then find a garage that will do the work. I refuse to go beyond my level of comfort working on cars, and this qualifies.
Bill I'll give you a case of Cabernet if you want to fly out and flush and bleed my system.
Same offer to you XViper!

I will try the flush and tranny fluid change before I do anything else.
I wish I lived near you. This is a very simple operation. I have a few small tools that make it a one man operation.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Dave,
your links are excellent. It almost makes me want to try it myself. I think I could handle flushing and bleeding the system. However, I looked through receipts last night and found that the transmission fluid has not been replaced in 50,000 miles, (I know, I know, serves me right) so I am going to take the S in and have the CMC flushed, and the tranny oil changed at the same time.

This whole thread has been very informative. Thanks to everybody.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Morris
Dave,
your links are excellent. It almost makes me want to try it myself. I think I could handle flushing and bleeding the system. However, I looked through receipts last night and found that the transmission fluid has not been replaced in 50,000 miles, (I know, I know, serves me right) so I am going to take the S in and have the CMC flushed, and the tranny oil changed at the same time.

This whole thread has been very informative. Thanks to everybody.
Morris, I can understand. As I get even older, my desire to crawl around and under my cars lessens with each passing year. You might want to get a couple of quotes from more than one dealer. It sounds like some of the dealers in your area are over charging for some pretty easy and basic work. Also double check that they are using the correct fluids. Brake DOT 3 or 4 for clutch fluid. Honda MTF* for the tranny. It'll take 2 qts (actually 1.8 liters) for the tranny and no more than 300 cc of brake fluid for the clutch. Some dealers will charge you for 3 qts of tranny fluid and a huge 1 liter bottle of brake fluid. When asked why, they just say that's what the computer kicks out.
On a hoist, with a professional, both jobs should be about an hour, but I'm sure the computer will kick out some ridiculous number. Be wary so you don't get hosed too badly.

* There's really no need to use anything more "exotic" for the tranny unless you have some pre-existing condition that you don't like. For example, some of the early AP2 transmissions were known to have a 2nd gear pop out on deceleration. Honda will strip your tranny down and replace all kinds of things inside just to cure this. A simple 50:50 mixture of Honda MTF and Amsoil MTF will cure this condition. Sometimes, there are way more simple ways to fix something than what Honda has in their "books".
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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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Welcome back Dave. Morris, I hope you get your problem fixed soon.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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If you want a point of reference, I had my CMC replaced by a Honda Dealer in 2011 due to the same symptoms described.

I was charged $204 labor and $122 for the CMC etc.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by xviper
Originally Posted by Morris' timestamp='1336664913' post='21686276
Dave,
your links are excellent. It almost makes me want to try it myself. I think I could handle flushing and bleeding the system. However, I looked through receipts last night and found that the transmission fluid has not been replaced in 50,000 miles, (I know, I know, serves me right) so I am going to take the S in and have the CMC flushed, and the tranny oil changed at the same time.

This whole thread has been very informative. Thanks to everybody.
Morris, I can understand. As I get even older, my desire to crawl around and under my cars lessens with each passing year. You might want to get a couple of quotes from more than one dealer. It sounds like some of the dealers in your area are over charging for some pretty easy and basic work. Also double check that they are using the correct fluids. Brake DOT 3 or 4 for clutch fluid. Honda MTF* for the tranny. It'll take 2 qts (actually 1.8 liters) for the tranny and no more than 300 cc of brake fluid for the clutch. Some dealers will charge you for 3 qts of tranny fluid and a huge 1 liter bottle of brake fluid. When asked why, they just say that's what the computer kicks out.
On a hoist, with a professional, both jobs should be about an hour, but I'm sure the computer will kick out some ridiculous number. Be wary so you don't get hosed too badly.

* There's really no need to use anything more "exotic" for the tranny unless you have some pre-existing condition that you don't like. For example, some of the early AP2 transmissions were known to have a 2nd gear pop out on deceleration. Honda will strip your tranny down and replace all kinds of things inside just to cure this. A simple 50:50 mixture of Honda MTF and Amsoil MTF will cure this condition. Sometimes, there are way more simple ways to fix something than what Honda has in their "books".
Dave, do you know the viscosity of Honda MTF?
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xviper
Originally Posted by Morris' timestamp='1336664913' post='21686276
Dave,
your links are excellent. It almost makes me want to try it myself. I think I could handle flushing and bleeding the system. However, I looked through receipts last night and found that the transmission fluid has not been replaced in 50,000 miles, (I know, I know, serves me right) so I am going to take the S in and have the CMC flushed, and the tranny oil changed at the same time.

This whole thread has been very informative. Thanks to everybody.
Morris, I can understand. As I get even older, my desire to crawl around and under my cars lessens with each passing year. ...
I finally decided I won't crawl in the garage anymore. I either sell of the S, or have the work done -- which I don't really iike. So -- I am buying one of these for one half of my garage:

http://www.revolutionlift.com/RFP9-9...Lift-P2C4.aspx

It will make general maintenance and also prepping the car for the track -- swapping brake rotors and pads, exhaust, etc. much much easier on an old guy who is not getting any younger.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill
Dave, do you know the viscosity of Honda MTF?
Bill, Honda says that in an emergency, you can use a 10W30 motor oil, so I'm guessing that it's going to be in that vicinity. Pouring it out and feeling it and seeing how is pours, it would appear this is very close.
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Old May 10, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by S1997
I finally decided I won't crawl in the garage anymore. I either sell of the S, or have the work done -- which I don't really iike. So -- I am buying one of these for one half of my garage:

http://www.revolutionlift.com/RFP9-9...Lift-P2C4.aspx

It will make general maintenance and also prepping the car for the track -- swapping brake rotors and pads, exhaust, etc. much much easier on an old guy who is not getting any younger.
I so wish my garage was high enough to accommodate a lift like that. I've installed a supercharger, header, replaced the tranny, changed the rear diff and exhaust system, even pulled the oil pan to change the oiljet bolts, all lying on my back with the car on jackstands. If I had a lift like that, maybe I'd still have a decent back and rotator cuffs.
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