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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Socrates must have been at my grandson's hockey game last night.... very observant fellow.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ralper
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The statement about Harvard is quite a statement.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Zippy
After reading many replies here, I will quote Socrates:
"Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers."
Good example. Where is the civilization Socrates lived in today? It is gone, just as we will be gone some day, and for the same fundamental reasons.

Don't blame the kids. Blame the world handed to them by the adults.

Kids are SUPPOSED to rebel; it is a natural part of growing up. When they grow up, they are suppose to take care of the next (and the previous) generation. We've gotten slack, ignore the bills for instant rewards, and eventually the unpaid bills will catch up with us. It's just a matter of time. No civilization lasts forever, and the US has been on the skids for quite some time. If that weren't the case we would not have to keep lowering the standards for things like the SAT and GED.

Socrates was right, but wasn't addressing the problem of parents passing the responsibility for raising their children off on the state.

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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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You know your kids are in their age of discovery. From language to dress to thought and action, they're stretching their boundries...farout...heavy...peace man...sound familiar in a vague sort of way/

Ralper I think your wife quoted my mother word for word. I don't think life changes, we do. We're comfortabel we tend to enjoy our experiences and cultivate the ones we like. Kids have none, they're in exploration mode. I don't think it's that we don't understand our kids, I think they don't understand us. They have no basis in their lives for that yet.

It al goes back to doing and experiencing new things. That's where the fountain of youth is and it's found all around you in things big and small.

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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Red, I agree with you on the dumbing down of the educational system. And, I say that even when one of my daughters is a teacher. I base this not on someone's study but on my own experience from doing a genealogy project on my family. After reading the papers of my aunts and uncles, I was blown away by how intelligent they were, how well they wrote, spelled, and described their life events - - much better than I could or my kids could....... and we are the ones with the college degrees. The highest any of these relatives got was high school, some of whom had to drop out before even graduating.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fltsfshr
It al goes back to doing and experiencing new things.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by RED MX5
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dlq04
Red, I agree with you on the dumbing down of the educational system.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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The quote seen in follow S2k ower THEOLDMAN's signature says it all for me:

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming..............."WOW! What a ride!!!!!"

If stop learning and stop trying new things we most certainly have started the dying process. I still have a long list of things to do and things to learn.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zippy
No, it's not the kids, as I stated above.
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