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We have a place near me called Northlandz - if anyone is a train person and passing through Central/West NJ check it out. https://northlandz.com/
When we were in Alaska, the Fairbanks Train station has a display as well : https://www.alaska.org/detail/tanana...ailroad-museum
is a short video
When we were in Alaska, the Fairbanks Train station has a display as well : https://www.alaska.org/detail/tanana...ailroad-museum
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So I just learned that for those of us that like doing woodworking, tablesaws may become a lot more expensive in the US. The Fed is trying to pass a mandate of Sawstop style technology on all tablesaws sold in the US. Now, contrary to what some stated this is not going to make Sawstop a monopoly because they have stated that if this passes they will relinquish their patent to make it easier for others to do so. Actually after initially going after Bosch for copying their stuff, they came back later and offered to give them the license for free. But even with that in mind, it will add costs and the cheaper saws will probably double in cost due to this.
I acquired a Sawstop Professional Cabinet saw and love it. The safety feature is neat but the saw itself is awesome and very well built. And having said safety feature is great and all. I just have some issue with how far govt can go to mandate these things for all. I bet if this passes, within a year you will be hard pressed to find even a cheap tablesaw for less than $700.
I acquired a Sawstop Professional Cabinet saw and love it. The safety feature is neat but the saw itself is awesome and very well built. And having said safety feature is great and all. I just have some issue with how far govt can go to mandate these things for all. I bet if this passes, within a year you will be hard pressed to find even a cheap tablesaw for less than $700.
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So I just learned that for those of us that like doing woodworking, tablesaws may become a lot more expensive in the US. The Fed is trying to pass a mandate of Sawstop style technology on all tablesaws sold in the US. Now, contrary to what some stated this is not going to make Sawstop a monopoly because they have stated that if this passes they will relinquish their patent to make it easier for others to do so. Actually after initially going after Bosch for copying their stuff, they came back later and offered to give them the license for free. But even with that in mind, it will add costs and the cheaper saws will probably double in cost due to this.
I acquired a Sawstop Professional Cabinet saw and love it. The safety feature is neat but the saw itself is awesome and very well built. And having said safety feature is great and all. I just have some issue with how far govt can go to mandate these things for all. I bet if this passes, within a year you will be hard pressed to find even a cheap tablesaw for less than $700.
I acquired a Sawstop Professional Cabinet saw and love it. The safety feature is neat but the saw itself is awesome and very well built. And having said safety feature is great and all. I just have some issue with how far govt can go to mandate these things for all. I bet if this passes, within a year you will be hard pressed to find even a cheap tablesaw for less than $700.
What will the government do when those that buy a SawStop learn that there is a method to bypass the safety system. And wait when the new owners try to cut wet treated lumber and the safety system fires. It can get expensive!
The government needs to keep their nose out of this!
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Yep I actually read instructions so I knew to bypass the safety when cutting wet materials but you know that some will not. About $100 plus a blade when it trips. I used to build cabinets all through college and have used many a saw without guard one on them. Not always smart but there are some limited cases where it is needed and you need to know what you are doing to do so. Most injuries though are more experienced people and I believe most are due to kickbacks, which a guard would protect your fingers from most times. Now, it wont protect the rest of your body from said kickback 
I watch a guys YT channel called Stumpy Nubs and he did a bit on this whole thing. And while they will not make it illegal to still own and old saw, he made a good point. After the safety issues came out on radial arm saws (Again, perfectly safe if used properly), at least one company actually bought back all the old ones they could get just out of fear of lawsuits. Cause the issue is that once the law goes in saying something is unsafe and can no longer be sold, then you just made a precedent for people to sue for injuries on the old thing, because the law just deemed it too unsafe to sell.
End of the day, I like to be safe. I just do not like the govt forcing these things. They have their hands in enough stuff as it stands now. I also still have my older Rigid jobsite saw and have no intentions of getting rid of that! When doing stuff at the house needing one, I am not moving my 500lb Sawstop up the hill to the house !
I watch a guys YT channel called Stumpy Nubs and he did a bit on this whole thing. And while they will not make it illegal to still own and old saw, he made a good point. After the safety issues came out on radial arm saws (Again, perfectly safe if used properly), at least one company actually bought back all the old ones they could get just out of fear of lawsuits. Cause the issue is that once the law goes in saying something is unsafe and can no longer be sold, then you just made a precedent for people to sue for injuries on the old thing, because the law just deemed it too unsafe to sell.
End of the day, I like to be safe. I just do not like the govt forcing these things. They have their hands in enough stuff as it stands now. I also still have my older Rigid jobsite saw and have no intentions of getting rid of that! When doing stuff at the house needing one, I am not moving my 500lb Sawstop up the hill to the house !
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Yep I actually read instructions so I knew to bypass the safety when cutting wet materials but you know that some will not. About $100 plus a blade when it trips. I used to build cabinets all through college and have used many a saw without guard one on them. Not always smart but there are some limited cases where it is needed and you need to know what you are doing to do so. Most injuries though are more experienced people and I believe most are due to kickbacks, which a guard would protect your fingers from most times. Now, it wont protect the rest of your body from said kickback
I watch a guys YT channel called Stumpy Nubs and he did a bit on this whole thing. And while they will not make it illegal to still own and old saw, he made a good point. After the safety issues came out on radial arm saws (Again, perfectly safe if used properly), at least one company actually bought back all the old ones they could get just out of fear of lawsuits. Cause the issue is that once the law goes in saying something is unsafe and can no longer be sold, then you just made a precedent for people to sue for injuries on the old thing, because the law just deemed it too unsafe to sell.
End of the day, I like to be safe. I just do not like the govt forcing these things. They have their hands in enough stuff as it stands now. I also still have my older Rigid jobsite saw and have no intentions of getting rid of that! When doing stuff at the house needing one, I am not moving my 500lb Sawstop up the hill to the house !
I watch a guys YT channel called Stumpy Nubs and he did a bit on this whole thing. And while they will not make it illegal to still own and old saw, he made a good point. After the safety issues came out on radial arm saws (Again, perfectly safe if used properly), at least one company actually bought back all the old ones they could get just out of fear of lawsuits. Cause the issue is that once the law goes in saying something is unsafe and can no longer be sold, then you just made a precedent for people to sue for injuries on the old thing, because the law just deemed it too unsafe to sell.
End of the day, I like to be safe. I just do not like the govt forcing these things. They have their hands in enough stuff as it stands now. I also still have my older Rigid jobsite saw and have no intentions of getting rid of that! When doing stuff at the house needing one, I am not moving my 500lb Sawstop up the hill to the house !
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I enjoy Stumpy Nubs videos! Our SawStop at work was constantly locked out with me being the only one with a key. This was necessary because we went thru sooo many brake devices from people cutting wet wood or aluminum backed foam board. Everyone was use to doing this on our old saw that they did it without thinking on the SawStop.