Two wrongs still don't make a right. That the lunatics in Iraq capture prisoners and chop off heads does not give us the right to torture or abuse prisoners.

It is only silly talk to those who have forgotten, or are willing to forget, that we believe in and stand for basic human rights and civil liberties. To those of us who haven't forgotten, it is serious business.

 

You know what would be silly Rob? If we were holding a terrorist, but weren't allowed to interrogate him because the ACLU or the SPCA made a stink about it, and the information that scumbag had could have prevented a mass shooting at a shopping mall, or some other horrendous event.

In this case, interrogation isn't even close to being a "wrong".

 

Cordy,

I never said we shouldn't be allowed to interrogate them, I only said that the methods we us are wrong.

I don't believe that when you use the word interrogate that you mean torture or abuse. Neither do I. Unfortunately, that is what is happening.

Do not think for a minute that the tee shirts, touching or red fluid is not torture. To people who believe that this is a sin, it is.

 

Oh all right, ya big cry baby. You'll get a stove pipe hat or a mitre with PNAD stenciled on the front in safety orange. Your choice.

 

Rob,

You are alive and you're not a Taliban. It's a SIN not to KILL you!

How much are you willing to let these wackos get away with? A little red Kool-Aid is over the line? C'mon! Usually you have at least an arguable position.

 

I think I have an arguable position, and apparently so does the military. The military is conducting an investigation into the matter and in fact has reprimanded some of the participants. Even you would agree that the military didn't reprimand them for doing the right thing.

 

My point exactly... Our military is now morphing over to be politically correct. If there were no journalists snapping pictures, none of this would be mentioned. Now the military feels it has to reprimand because of our politically correct society.

 

I don't necessarily agree with the military.

I'm sure that some of these "enemy combatants" are small fish, and really don't have anything valuable to pass along, especially at this late date. I say give 'em three hots and a cot, and a white robe and the Koran.

Even the "small fish" in Guantanamo are still dangerous enough, if let go, to decide that they want to become an insta-bomb. A few that were released have already done so.

I would hope that we use "stronger methods" on those who have information who could save the lives of servicemen or innocent civilians. These are people who have already volunteered to give up their lives, or to take ours. As they have made this "pledge", I say they have also "volunteered" for the stronger methods that are needed to keep innocent people safe. They earned it.

 

I sit here on the sidelines biting my tongue.

 

You have an answer and justification for everything. If the fact that the military has reprimanded the participants is not evidence, but rather a sign to you that the military is trying to be politically correct, then there is no sense continuing the discussion. I wouldn't want to fool you with the facts if you've already made up you mind.