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Originally Posted by cordycord' date='Feb 10 2005, 09:23 PM
In the greater sense, what is Ralper willing to do to keep his Christmas list? Spill some red Kool-Aid? 
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In the larger sense, your Christmas list is at stake. Sound funny?
Remember when the great great grandson of Van Gogh was murdered for making an anti-Muslim movie? A film festival in Belgium just announced that they won't be showing the movie, as they don't want to offend anyone.
It's the incrementalism and appeasement and civil rights watchdog weenies who are allowing these guys to get away with, well, murder.
It's like taking a great idea, like conservationism, and then twisting it until walking on a lawn is an offense against Mother Nature.
We need to be rational about the laws we make, just as we need to be rational about how we "process" these armed combatants. Taken too far, even a basic tenet such as civil rights can be taken too far.
Boy, it took me a while to circle that wagon to a point.
Remember when the great great grandson of Van Gogh was murdered for making an anti-Muslim movie? A film festival in Belgium just announced that they won't be showing the movie, as they don't want to offend anyone.
It's the incrementalism and appeasement and civil rights watchdog weenies who are allowing these guys to get away with, well, murder.
It's like taking a great idea, like conservationism, and then twisting it until walking on a lawn is an offense against Mother Nature.
We need to be rational about the laws we make, just as we need to be rational about how we "process" these armed combatants. Taken too far, even a basic tenet such as civil rights can be taken too far.
Boy, it took me a while to circle that wagon to a point.
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Originally Posted by valentine' date='Feb 10 2005, 12:25 PM
I'm glad that if those pics were taken in Virginia, those "ladies" would be fined appropriately!!! 
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Originally Posted by Warren J. Dew' date='Feb 10 2005, 10:57 PM
Personally, I am far more worried that the terrorists may have won in the sense that they have gotten us to give up some of our own rights domestically, creating a huge "homeland security" infrastructure to enforce questionably constitutional laws affecting innocent citizens of our own country.
I appreciate your well state, thoughtful post. While I don't agree with some of it, I do see your points. It is late, and I'm a bit too tired to argue. Perhaps tomorrow.
As to your last paragraph, as quoted above, I agree completely, but I think there is a relationship here as well. I think as we've taken the human rights of the prisoners, we've also given up some of our rights. I think they've won on both fronts.
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As long as we're talking about constitutionality, lets talk about our wonderrful new McCain-Feingold Campaign finance bill and the positive effect it had on our last election.
Was I the only one who noticed that more money was spent on this election financing than any other, BY FAR?!
Was I the only one who noticed that more money was spent on this election financing than any other, BY FAR?!