LOL are you kidding me?!?!

I thought we had already settled and moved on but yet I am amazed after everything I did your still here whining about it.

I sold this punk kid my Js Racing wing and regretted it to this day. First of all, YOU DID NOT PAY ME ON THE FIRST DAY! I guess you forgot that you didnt pay me till 3 days after I had posted. He claimed his mommy and daddy didnt want him to buy anymore things for his car so he was trying to get his friend to paypal me instead so his parents wouldnt know about it. Whenever this impatient kid tried to contact me I always returned his PMs promptly and when I missed his call I would IMMEDIATELY call him back.

When I listed the wing for sale, NOWHERE did I state insurance would be included or nor did Nightcrawler EVER mention insurance before the wing was sent out. Before this transaction I always added insurance because it isnt much more and this was no cheap item. I told the lady I wanted insuranance and assumed it was charged since I have never had this problem before. I packaged the item which I believed was good enough. I used Industrial bubble wrap where it should protect the item good enough. NOT THIS case however it seems. Nightcrawler claims that DHL dropped the box off and it was completely torn apart. "A little pressure applied?" The pics he showed me looked as something FELL on the box and put a hole in it. Below the hole where the wing was is where the damage occured. ITS OBVIOUS IN THE PICTURES HE SENT ME.

When he called me whining that the wing was broken I IMMEDIATELY called DHL to get it fixed. They tell me they need to do an investigation and will send someone to his house. In the end I find out insurance was not included and which made this deal go sour.

In the end he demanded I give him a FULL refund and that I even pay for shipping back on the item. I did not feel responsible for this damage for I did what I was supposed to do. The day after recieving payment, I shipped the wing in an adequate box.

The kicker here is I was always polite while he took shots at me blaming my packaging was the problem and bad mouthed me on s2ki. He called me and I wasnt able to pick up and when I msgd him back WITHIN 5 MINS he goes and post all my personal info on every thread I posted in and posts demanding a refund.

I than decide to be the better man and take the loss. I tell him Ill give him a 900 refund and will take the wing back. He reluctantly agrees and states that he wont send the wing until I give the money first. At this point Im sick of this kid and say Ill give you 600 now and give the last 300 upon recieving my broken wing. He agrees.

And heres the hilarious part. I get the wing 1.5 weeks later and the box he sent it in was a joke. It was a box that was 2 different sizes. One side being a smaller old propane tank box and the other half that was bigger in size. AND HE USED OFFICE SCOTCH TAPE TO PATCH THIS CRAP TOGETHER! I guess his standard of boxing is much better than mine as he believes. Also the damn wing is missing 4 screws. When I asked him about them, he says he lost em in his garage when he took the wing apart which Im sure is pure BS.

So in the end I sold a wing that got damaged due to the shipping company. I gave 900 back and paid for shipping on BOTH WAYS and recieved my BROKEN wing back with missing screws. I dont know what else to say. I did more than most would have done. I believe most people would have said oh well too bad, you didnt ask for insurance. BUT NOT I DIDNT. I GAVE HIM OVER 85% his money back and got back my wing that is now damaged. Yeah I guess Im the scammer here.

I also sent my Js Racing Diffuser the SAME DAY to faukengenius and crazy that it had insurance on his item and yours didnt...hmmm? And he recieved his item with NO PROBLEMS at ALL!
I will never do business with NIGHTCRAWLER ever again and will never recommend to BUY/SELL anything to him.

Thats the truth and I am done with this subject and this lowlife kid.


Roger

 

 

Perfect example why s2ki should not label people with a bad guy badge. It is always going to be he said she said. Of the many transactions that Roger has made in Florida, I have never seen negative feedback.

 

^^Just being accused of being a "bad guy" isn't grounds to have my mythilogical badge assigned! Assign 2 mod's to run this section and they take all evidence and then the 2 convene. Then BAM, judgement time! This would only be possible to 2 people who would volunteer their time to "police" this section as you put it earlier Jesusphish. It might not even be possible, but I think the idea is a great one worth investigating to see if it can be made into a working program for this community.

The 2 mods who would do this get special CSI/S2K badges!

 

If someone is obviously guilty of scamming, the Mods suspend the offenders selling rights. Also below there name shows there Banned status which is easy to spot. I doubt anything else would be done other than this.

 

Info I didn't know..

I have never seen that though....

 

Roger, we did settle it. But I'm still pissed that you put me through all the BS. Let me take some time to rebut your statements:

"YOU DID NOT PAY ME ON THE FIRST DAY! I guess you forgot that you didnt pay me till 3 days after I had posted."

After posting that I "paid on the first day" I thought back and wasn't completely sure. So I won't argue that I paid you on the 3rd day. Either way, I never gave you a run around. I was just waiting for my friend to send you the $ for me.

"He claimed his mommy and daddy didnt want him to buy anymore things for his car so he was trying to get his friend to paypal me instead so his parents wouldnt know about it."

You're right that my parents had been upset that I had been spending so much time on the car, so I didn't want them to know about my purchase of the wing. I can't complain...I still live in their house, and they pay for my education. But how does this have anything to do with the matter at hand?

"Whenever this impatient kid tried to contact me I always returned his PMs promptly and when I missed his call I would IMMEDIATELY call him back."

I think I had the right to get a little impatient. This issue wasn't resolved until maybe 3-4 weeks after the wing broke. And even though I wasn't in dire financial straits, it was still my unreturned $1100, not yours. I don't think there was a need to talk about how you would return calls after you missed them. I never said that you weren't prompt in your responses or fell under the radar for long periods of time

"When I listed the wing for sale, NOWHERE did I state insurance would be included or nor did Nightcrawler EVER mention insurance before the wing was sent out."

Then why would you persistently defend yourself in stating that you DID purchase insurance? If you said that we never agreed to insure the wing, I would have been wrong and I would have been shit outta luck and it would have been MY fault. But you chose to swear that you purchased insurance and that they would resolve it.

"I used Industrial bubble wrap where it should protect the item good enough. NOT THIS case however it seems."

If you wrap ONLY THE BLADE with 2 layers of bubble wrap but leave the sideplates in AND not wrapped, how will bubble wrap prevent it from breaking? All the bubble wrap would do is protect the blade from scratches, as any child would be able to point out OH YEAH...the box was basically the exact thickness of the wing which was already inadequately protected. Oh yeah "industrial" bubble wrap is still just bubble wrap.

"Nightcrawler claims that DHL dropped the box off and it was completely torn apart. The pics he showed me looked as something fell on the box and put a hole in it."

I said the box was opened, never said it was COMPLETELY TORN APART. It was open on one side.

"The pics he showed me looked as something fell on the box and put a hole in it. Below the hole where the wing was is where the damage occured. ITS OBVIOUS IN THE PICTURES HE SENT ME."

There was no hole in the box...one side somehow opened. What are you trying to say? It seems like you're trying to say that something falling on the box is what caused the break...if the wing was actually disassembled, I'm sure it would have been fine.

"When he called me whining that the wing was broken"

So I don't have a right to complain that something I paid you your asking price for was broken upon its delivery (obviously due to your inadequate packaging?

"In the end he demanded I give him a FULL refund and that I even pay for shipping back on the item. I did not feel responsible for this damage for I did what I was supposed to do."

So...I'm somehow partially responsible and should take a monetary hit for your negligent packaging?

"The kicker here is I was always polite while he took shots at me blaming my packaging was the problem and bad mouthed me on s2ki. He called me and I wasnt able to pick up and when I msgd him back WITHIN 5 MINS he goes and post all my personal info on every thread I posted in and posts demanding a refund."

You were polite in your word choice and syntax, but you were basically telling me to go screw myself and that you're not going to resolve an issue that is clearly your fault. Maybe they shouldn't prosecute prosecute con artists because at least they weren't being mean while they were ripping people off Yeah I posted your personal info for a few minutes then removed it...and ONLY THEN did you start to get serious about giving me my money back. Oh yeah don't call that "the kicker" because using the term "the kicker" usually implies that some irony is about to follow. I see no irony here.

"I than decide to be the better man and take the loss."

You mean rightfully reimburse me?

"He reluctantly agrees and states that he wont send the wing until I give the money first. At this point Im sick of this kid and say Ill give you 600 now and give the last 300 upon recieving my broken wing. He agrees."

Why would I want to keep your broken wing? Also, you sent me a shoddily packaged wing that broke before, then tried to cover your ass and not give my money back...who would be stupid enough to send the stuff back to you without first getting some kind of money?

"And heres the hilarious part. I get the wing 1.5 weeks later and the box he sent it in was a joke. It was a box that was 2 different sizes. One side being a smaller old propane tank box and the other half that was bigger in size. AND HE USED OFFICE SCOTCH TAPE TO PATCH THIS CRAP TOGETHER! I guess his standard of boxing is much better than mine as he believes."

That's the EXACT, unmodified box that my SECOND J's wing was shipped to me in (from PAYELS2k). That wing got to me in perfect condition...I made sure the box would hold up to stress...and...what's that? Oh yeah...no further damage to your broken wing was sustained during its shipment to you in that SAME box...so don't bring up the construction of that box 1) as if it makes a difference at all and 2) as if it didn't get the job done in the manner in which YOU initially should have.

"Also the damn wing is missing 4 screws. When I asked him about them, he says he lost em in his garage when he took the wing apart."

No sarcasm here...I'm truly, honestly sorry that I lost those screws. THAT was my fault. I'm sure that if you went to Lowe's, Home Depot, or somewhere else, they would be less than $1 to replace. I can send you reimbursement if you present a receipt to me. But you can't screw the sideplates in anyway, since the wing was split down the middle right through some of the holes where the sideplates screw in.

"I gave 900 back and paid for shipping on BOTH WAYS and recieved my BROKEN wing back with missing screws."

$900 is less than $1100. I lost money. Also, I paid $55 to ship it back to you, and after paypal fees i got back something like $874 or something around that. Don't capitalize "broken" as if you're implying it was broken due to me, when it broken before it got to me

"Dont sell anything to NIGHTCRAWLER cause hell throw dirt on your name."

Have you seen how much stuff I have on my car? Did you know that 90% of it is used? That means it was bought through s2ki members. 75% of the used parts were shipped from other states. Your transaction was the first one that went sour, and you're the first person I've had to call out.

Your favorite lowlife/punk kid,
Rashad

 

This might totally be the case, I'm not doubting you. But this transaction just happened to go the way it did, and it definitely was not me who was at fault.

 

[QUOTE=ITBs2k,Sep 21 2008, 12:38 PM] LOL are you kidding me?!?!

I thought we had already settled and moved on but yet I am amazed after everything I did your still here whining about it.

I sold this punk kid my Js Racing wing and regretted it to this day.

 

and you're totally right. but instead of saying we never agreed to insurance and leaving it at that, Roger chose to tell me that everything was going to be taken care of, and he was PERSISTENT in telling me that he did, in fact, buy insurance on the item. as i stated in my response, if Roger were to take the former course of action as opposed to the latter, i would have been forced to leave it at that and move on.