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Old Aug 24, 2013 | 12:46 AM
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I should have said, "doesn't mean that we no longer have a desire to teach someone the information."

Like you said, the more data, the better. As long as other people on this forum are willing to share information even if though it has been repeated, the better. Just because the information already exists shouldn't detract people from wanting to teach others the information. It's like telling students to just read out of the textbook because the information already exists in the textbook and there is no need for the teacher. If a student has a question, the teacher can just say, "Look it up. It's in the textbook already."
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:01 AM
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Sometimes S2000 Talk looks like a warzone with more locked or moved threads than open ones. That to me seems like an eyesore.

Not sure if it is over moderating or just the quality of posts. Some old threads that are bumped are a nice blast from the past. So not sure if locking everything older than a certain time-frame is the best way to go, UNLESS this is being done to somehow improve site performance or foster fresh discussion keeping in tune with the times.

I will say this though. Don't knock on the moderators too much. They do a job that is thankless and voluntary. Keep your comments on here constructive rather than venting your ire.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by A 2
Sometimes S2000 Talk looks like a warzone with more locked or moved threads than open ones. That to me seems like an eyesore.

Not sure if it is over moderating or just the quality of posts. Some old threads that are bumped are a nice blast from the past. So not sure if locking everything older than a certain time-frame is the best way to go, UNLESS this is being done to somehow improve site performance or foster fresh discussion keeping in tune with the times.

I will say this though. Don't knock on the moderators too much. They do a job that is thankless and voluntary. Keep your comments on here constructive rather than venting your ire.
With you A2.
Just know what happens when demagoguery and hubris go unchecked.
I'd take a little more chaos as long as the discussion continues. When it gets a little too whacked, step in. I see a lot more than that here.
Again, just my opinion.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Fasting
Just know what happens when demagoguery and hubris go unchecked.
yep! we've been through that together.

I'm hoping that is definitely not the case here.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 04:27 AM
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There's a new Sheriff (or two) in town.

Fasting, thanks for speaking up as I felt the same way.

Step in when necessary, don't go looking for trouble or threads to lock. Let the complaints come to you.

Moderating is an almost thankless job, don't take it too seriously.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by freq
There's a new Sheriff (or two) in town.

Fasting, thanks for speaking up as I felt the same way.

Step in when necessary, don't go looking for trouble or threads to lock. Let the complaints come to you.

Moderating is an almost thankless job, don't take it too seriously.
When I used to moderate 2-3 online computer game forums concurrently in my high school days (plenty of time to watch them like a hawk, and I thought I was super important with that forum title [this is not a knock on any moderators here]) I found that, once I learned to adopt the method I bolded in the quote above, my job became much easier--both in time required on my part and in increasing users' overall opinions of my moderating actions.

In my opinion, it is better to be a little more lax on the forum rules and allow for more community-building / information sharing than to enforce every little detail to avoid duplication of answers and at the same time alienate the community for which you were selected to moderate by making them feel over-policed. That is the last thing that should ever happen in a fully voluntary community (both on the end-user AND moderator/administrator sides). New discussions ending = forum death, perhaps slowly but almost certainly, in the long run.


That said, I also think a part of the issue is that this site has a culture of ball-busting on new posters more than most I've been a part of. Sure, every forum will have people who will say "did you even search?" when somebody posts a repeat question, but it seems to be a bit more commonplace here. I only have anecdotal evidence on this so your opinions may vary.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:00 AM
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There is really one goddess who is clamping down on forum talk. I think in an effort to enforce rules this person has lost the goal - discussion not moderation.

When I PM this person regarding their actions I got a copy/paste reply - URL link. Never bothered to engage in a friendly discussion.

I believe when a moderator is so cold and so disinterested its time they step down. I've witnessed this similar action in years past elsewhere. I believe it becomes their slice of the world to control and so they do. Could Dr. Rob it more but that might be insulting.
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Originally Posted by rob-2
There is really one goddess who is clamping down on forum talk. I think in an effort to enforce rules this person has lost the goal - discussion not moderation.

When I PM this person regarding their actions I got a copy/paste reply - URL link. Never bothered to engage in a friendly discussion.

I believe when a moderator is so cold and so disinterested its time they step down. I've witnessed this similar action in years past elsewhere. I believe it becomes their slice of the world to control and so they do. Could Dr. Rob it more but that might be insulting.
From what you say the problem appears to be "clamping down on conversations". Lets focus on the issues and not people, lest they feel attacked. In other circumstances I am sure all of us would get along well enough and possibly even share a beer.
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by A 2
Originally Posted by rob-2' timestamp='1377367232' post='22742741
There is really one goddess who is clamping down on forum talk. I think in an effort to enforce rules this person has lost the goal - discussion not moderation.

When I PM this person regarding their actions I got a copy/paste reply - URL link. Never bothered to engage in a friendly discussion.

I believe when a moderator is so cold and so disinterested its time they step down. I've witnessed this similar action in years past elsewhere. I believe it becomes their slice of the world to control and so they do. Could Dr. Rob it more but that might be insulting.
From what you say the problem appears to be "clamping down on conversations". Lets focus on the issues and not people, lest they feel attacked. In other circumstances I am sure all of us would get along well enough and possibly even share a beer.
That is the root problem and I've ask that mod to lighten up. I identified the person because both the PM and recent actions aren't in line with keeping the convo going.

You're probably right.

So how do we address this problem?
Old Aug 24, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
That is the root problem and I've ask that mod to lighten up. I identified the person because both the PM and recent actions aren't in line with keeping the convo going.

You're probably right.

So how do we address this problem?
Perhaps the problem has been addressed already. Sometimes it just helps to give people some feedback which this thread appears to be doing.



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