ok - please tell me Erik where i misread

again i know this is your house and i am but a guest but this is how i read your post - and yes i read it

1) for sale - members only - [B]fair enough won't stop fraud given the fact that most of this comes from a few shady vendors and one or two unscrupulous members (trent)

 

I believe from reading the early posts in this thread, my email correspondences with cthree and the information he sent out to all paying vendors last week that vendor sig banners will be remaining intact (as they should).

 

So if Erik says he's going to restrict the parts of the library that consist of what he has written, and he hasn't written anything, then how is anybody any worse off?

BTW, he has written at least one technical article that I'm aware of but that's beside the point. Maybe he plans on writing more?

 

1) This is something members are asking for, not my idea. You're right, s2ki doesn't have anything to do with whether you get scammed or not. We don't don't take a commission or fee when you don't either. We have no control over who you decide to send money to. Use escrow.com or something similar if you want to make sure you don't get ripped off. All buying from a member means is that I have some info about them that you can use to try and get satisfaction. Guests, I have nothing but a hotmail account and an IP address (zilch, not even a name).

2) Means that if you don't pay to advertise you can't, nothing more. This has always been the policy it just has never been enforced strictly. Now it will. The new Platinum Membership option will offer a way for those who want to advertise something less than a business to do so. Some custom accessory or a bookeeping business or whatever. The rules on this are just being clarified, not changed.

3) I said I would detail the new options at a later time and I will.

4) Perhaps not but the topic is changes to s2ki and sponsorships and memberships are both related to s2ki. Feel free to ignore what doesn't apply.

5) Not a change. GBs are sponsors only now. Just a clarification is terms of changes in the sponsorship programs and the new Platinum Membership. If you don't post Group Buys then it doesn't effect you so ignore it.

6) Lots of people. If you don't, ignore it.

7) Not what I said. I said "The front page will change and the Library content moved to the forums". What I mean is there will be no "Library" (content) outside of the forums. Not the new library forum(s) specifically, forums in general. I'm sick of maintaining two software packages when one would do just fine. Right now the Library is a place where information goes to die. You can't search for anything in there and most of it is missing, incomplete or broken. I also can't get anyone to maintain anything in there. It's gone. If there is content in there that doesn't exist in the forums already it will be moved there and that CMS package retired. The frontpage which is part of that package will naturally need to be replaced with something else.

8) I'm sure I said it before or maybe it was in a post I never posted but if it's in the forums now and I didn't post it there then it will remain there at the pleasure of the author. If there are TSBs posted in the forums somewhere then fine, they are there and will remain. Finding them is your problem. Same thing for how-tos. If I didn't write them then it's up to the person who did to decide if they want them to be for members only or not. That doesn't mean I can't make a copy, reorganize it, remove the crap and make it available to members in a more readily accessible form. That is what I intend on doing in The Library forum for members. If you don't care and are just as happy to search for it in the 4+ million posts here then fine, ignore it. the Library is "cthree's concise guide to S2KI and the S2000". That's what it is, that's what it's for and I'm doing for the members only.

This is not an UPGRADE, it's a CHANGE. I post notice of it because some people go ballistic if I don't.

Other things I said:

Despite what others have implied.

In other words I haven't announced any specific details mainly because I don't know what they are yet. Some things I'm sure of, others are still in flux. I will announce specific substantial changes to members before they happen. You're a member so you are on that list.

The details are sparse on purpose, they are only a general notice of changes on the horizon and not a detailed or specific list. Some people will see them as positive changes and added value for members other will see them a further evidence of the deterioration of social values at the hands of greedy capitalists and immediately rush out and buy some new birkinstocks with their Platinum VISA card. Half full/half empty...

 

Thanks for the response -

 

Most of what needs to be written already has been. There are lots of how-tos and other inportant tidbits. Some of it is spread out all over the place. For example the topic about CV joint problems is not one concise post. It is a thread of discussion with evolving bits of information and a final diagnosis of the problem. If you are looking specifically for why you have vibration when accelerating you aren't going to find it easily. Search for "shakes" and you will but who knows that?

The value I'm offering in The Library will be compiling that information and the associated TSB (which was inspired by our findings) into a sensible and searchable nugget that makes sense. Not 6 pages of people trying to figure out what's going on. That's just one example of a vast wealth of knowledge locked away in the database that most people miss because it's not obvious.

Is there anything about the S2000 we haven't covered (many times over)? No. We know just about all there is to know. All you need to do is read several hundred thousand posts to find it...

 

No-I should be getting what I paid for. Thats all.


I got a PM from Erik aka cthree today saying that he will print out and mail my "packet" tomorrow.

I'm not holding my breath on this.


And Erik, it's not the .53 cent "card", its the fact that you haven't given a shit about your members.


If I were you, I'd FEDEX to zdave87 (me) a "packet" along with a free membership renewal for one year. That way I'd consider even renewing my membership.

 

Since I was quoted, I feel compelled to set the record straight. The complete quote is:
The context of the "what are you doing..." is in regards to this site (i.e., S2ki), and not in what you are doing with the local S2000 owners. In other words, how are we (as members of this community, whether we pay our dues or not) going to help the new comers to S2ki (the S2000 community)? I often run into other S2000 owners and the first thing I tell them is to visit this site. But I will stop doing that if this site becomes "new comer unfriendly" or "members only".

Thank you cthree, for the clarifications. Now that several others have joined in on this discussion, I don't feel so alone anymore. In one of my earliest posts on this thread, I said: "...please do not take what I said as a complaint, just an opinion." And it is still true, but because it is on the first page of this thread, I guess many others did not read it and interpreted my posts as complaints.

 

I don't want to beat on a dead horse, and I don't want to say "I told you so", but here are some of the recent threads that show S2ki is not helping new comers to the site.

Where are the TSB's

Technical Service Bulletins

My opinion still is that S2ki is not doing all it can for the S2000 community by adopting the "pay to play" policy. The TSB library should be available to all.

 

Sorry you missed it https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showforum=145