I don't mean to sound like the bad guy...and it may indeed be appropriate that I live in Arlington right between Dallas and Fort Worth, but I think that we've all been alluding to it, and we have been heading in this direction.

The last thing that we need to do is start the blame game vilifying certain elements of this forum...if anything, you all can call me the bad guy since I'm writing this.

With that said, I would like to propose a definitive split between the Fort Worth and Dallas groups, or more appropriately an East DFW and West DFW group. We established the fact that it is neither feasible nor convenient for everyone on the forum to meet up regularly, and it should be acceptable to promote East side events and West side events accordingly.
In keeping with that mentality, it should be noted that both individual groups are open to participation by S2000 owners regardless of where they hail from.

We have already spoken with the S2ki forum, and they have agreed to give us a Fort Worth and a Dallas forum should we so desire, we just need to decide on a way to proceed while limiting the hard feelings.

It should be within that understanding that we could still collectively maintain a greater North Texas group in which to have autocrosses, cruises, and other events...

It is apparent that we already have a relatively split group, but this is meant to get the ball rolling on a more defined split...one that is clean and less hostile. I feel that if we don't act now to define this split, we will end up with a hostile break-up of sorts and one that will make future corporate events such as autocrosses awkward events.

I hope that this is received in the manner in which it is given, and I thoroughly enjoy getting to know people on both sides of the metroplex, so I hope there are no hard feelings. I just wanted to voice this particular issue because we all know it's happening...we just need to make it happen more easily.

Thank you all again for your friendship, camaraderie, and enthusiam...and I hope that we can continue with this as gentlemen and maintain the relationships that we have built.

 

The level of conversation of the forums is already dwindling down and splitting the forums into two groups is only going to hurt the online community more than it is going to help.

As far as the "official" meets go, it has already been mentioned that they have been spread fairly evenly for the most part. Some meets, such as drives usually don't move around because they are a preplanned route, but I know I have driven out to FW for a few of the club social meets.

I just don't see why this is needed. Any of the meets that we have had that were more on the "Dallas" side were organized by the general members and not the club leaders, and there's no reason the FW crew can't do that too. As long as it's kept "open to anyone" then I don't think you'll have the "hostility" that you feel you will because it won't feel like somebody is trying to drive a wedge into the group.

Just my $0.02,
-Doug

 

Why?

This is childish - there is no need for a 'split.' It's obvious that locations are not always going to be perfect for everyone. Hell, it's hard for someone in Allen to hang out in downtown Dallas. Should we split it between north and south Dallas? It has always been assumed that if it's too far away, you're not going to go. Why do you have to state: "Hey (location specific) people, lets do our own thing."

Plan your events, open it to all - if someone from Dallas wants to join. So be it. If someone from FW wants to hang out at a Dallas event, so be it.

It's nice to see that high-school drama can exist on a car club...

 

alright, this is already spurning the conversation that we necessarily need. I would venture to say that if we were able to do events separately WITHOUT hard feelings, then we wouldn't necessarily NEED a split...

It would be far more amenable to talk this one out than go through with a split, but with the "drama" that we have been experiencing, we have been left with the question of, "would we be better off with two definitive groups?"

 

Yes someone has spoken to us, but I do know that we haven't agreed to anything.

If this is truly a priority, I want to see all the community members vote on this. How many members would actually make up this new sub forum?

here is the pm that one of your member's got, it does specifically say to have the agreement of the community.

I don't see there is a need right now to split off a small community. We have been there and donethat and it doesn't work out very well. You will have an opportunity but not by splitting the community.

 

I seldom attend "social" events anyway, but honestly I agree with the others that say that there is no need for a split. The club organizers will establish the "official" group events, and as mentioned in the other thread, they are pretty good about moving those to various locations throughout the metroplex.

Anybody can organize an "unofficial" meet and invite people to come out an join them. And as Doug states above, the only reason this would cause animosity is if they explicitly exclude people (which I'm still not sure has intentionally happened, but whatever).

So, in conclusion, anybody that wants to "split" the group needs to GTFO. This is not your group, and you have no right to split it. If you think that a split is required, then it needs to be brought up with the NTS2KOC organizers and discussed privately before trying to rip the club apart from the inside. This is not directed specifically at you MisterMatt, but just a statement to anyone who thinks that it's a good idea to cause dissension in the ranks and try to organize some sort of coup. The NTS2KOC organizers and officers have dedicated a lot of time over the past 8+ years and it is blatantly disrespectful to think that someone can come in and try to yank the reins from their hands and tear down what they have invested a lot of time in building.


Edit: But, if all you're wanting to do is to start a new forum on S2Ki, then I don't really give a crap. I won't be viewing it, so it would make no difference to me. Just like any other regional forum on here, I'll have no interest in viewing it since it won't really affect me. So, in that regards, do what you will and be happy.

 

This forum is better than a soap opera. Where's a popcorn smiley when you need one?

 

Um.. right there.

 

Wow...I'm pretty new here, maybe been around a month or so...But I have seen a lot of discussions about splitting and meets targeted to certain areas. One of the biggest problems I see, is that Dallas and Fort Worth are what, like an hour apart? And thats from downtown to downtown. Most everyone lives in suburbs which adds to the distance. The distance to travel to any meet, hinders most from attending. The second problem is that there are few of us to begin with! Seriously, I travel 60 miles round trip to work and I hardly ever see another s2k. Maybe one a week if i'm lucky. Then, take the few amount of s2k's that are out there and see how many actually know about this forum, and again by the ones who actually see/use this forum often?! And some here are wanting a divide? lol....for what? Might as well get rid of the entire north texas forum, lol. Just leave it as is, leave all events, meets and what not open to everyone and people will go if willing...Thanks!

 

I'm not sure why people feel the need to post stuff like this in a thread that is meant to address a problem.

Thanks for your valuable input