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Pat,
Unlike Pete who thinks brakes are unnecessary (but hey, he's probably running his Corvette with the aircon on too), I encourage your experimentation.
I think your notion of where to try what seems reasonable, except I see no need to do anything in 1. That's pretty much hard braking after the straight, then on the gas as you turn in and hit your apex (I curb it pretty hard sometimes).
I could see left foot for 2 though, as I always have a problem getting the car to rotate there.
I like the idea of jacking around with 3, as if I make any mistake there it's turning in too early. Perhaps experimenting with braking would make me focus more on that and keep me from turning in early.
I trail-brake 7 in the 'second' turn (I take it as two turns) rather than left foot, but I could see left foot working.
Unlike Pete who thinks brakes are unnecessary (but hey, he's probably running his Corvette with the aircon on too), I encourage your experimentation.
I think your notion of where to try what seems reasonable, except I see no need to do anything in 1. That's pretty much hard braking after the straight, then on the gas as you turn in and hit your apex (I curb it pretty hard sometimes).
I could see left foot for 2 though, as I always have a problem getting the car to rotate there.
I like the idea of jacking around with 3, as if I make any mistake there it's turning in too early. Perhaps experimenting with braking would make me focus more on that and keep me from turning in early.
I trail-brake 7 in the 'second' turn (I take it as two turns) rather than left foot, but I could see left foot working.
Originally Posted by mitmak,Jul 23 2009, 08:12 PM
My techniques this weekend:
1) keep the rear tires behind the front tires
2) keep all 4 tires on asphalt
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1,435,687) What Clark said ^^^^
Its my first track experience... I'm sticking to the basics.

1) keep the rear tires behind the front tires
2) keep all 4 tires on asphalt
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.
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1,435,687) What Clark said ^^^^
Its my first track experience... I'm sticking to the basics.


I find 3 to be the one place on the track where oversteer can be a problem, and trail-braking can induce MORE oversteer. Seems like a bad combo to me, but then I have torque. Even with the A/C on.
Originally Posted by sw05s2k,Jul 16 2009, 08:09 AM
^ Kamron we'll be bringing the Avalanche with a pop-up trailer so we'll keep an eye out for you on Friday.
Originally Posted by ruexp67,Jul 23 2009, 07:02 PM
I don't know that I'd jack around too much with 3.
I am (personally) not a big fan of left-foot braking. I have found that after YEARS of driving cars with a clutch pedal, my left foot is GREAT at modulating the pedal while releasing it, but for SHIT when depressing the pedal. I tend to MASH the pedal with my left foot. I'd reccomend AGAINST doing that if the pedal underfoot becomes the brake pedal.
I am (personally) not a big fan of left-foot braking. I have found that after YEARS of driving cars with a clutch pedal, my left foot is GREAT at modulating the pedal while releasing it, but for SHIT when depressing the pedal. I tend to MASH the pedal with my left foot. I'd reccomend AGAINST doing that if the pedal underfoot becomes the brake pedal.

An instructor at the last track daze event recommended left foot braking (although another instructor @ a different event said it's benefits would be a wash...worth giving a try though).
So the way I learned to left foot brake without putting my forehead through the steering wheel - Drove with left foot accelerating for a while. This retrained my left foot to be almost as smooth as my right when depressing. In a safe area, I tucked my right foot back and started to accelerate with my left. If I depressed too far or hard, it would be a mild acceleration - whereas if I did the same with the brake, I would have pressed the horn button with my face. Once I got smooth enough LF accelerating, I tried the brake. A bit of practice later and I can street LFB pretty well.
Originally Posted by Clark,Jul 23 2009, 07:27 PM
I think your notion of where to try what seems reasonable, except I see no need to do anything in 1. That's pretty much hard braking after the straight, then on the gas as you turn in and hit your apex (I curb it pretty hard sometimes).
I could see left foot for 2 though, as I always have a problem getting the car to rotate there.
I like the idea of jacking around with 3, as if I make any mistake there it's turning in too early. Perhaps experimenting with braking would make me focus more on that and keep me from turning in early.
I trail-brake 7 in the 'second' turn (I take it as two turns) rather than left foot, but I could see left foot working.
I could see left foot for 2 though, as I always have a problem getting the car to rotate there.
I like the idea of jacking around with 3, as if I make any mistake there it's turning in too early. Perhaps experimenting with braking would make me focus more on that and keep me from turning in early.
I trail-brake 7 in the 'second' turn (I take it as two turns) rather than left foot, but I could see left foot working.
2 is always weird because it's up hill and seems to go on forever. I feel if the pit entrance wasn't there, it should be taken late. I've been taking it as 2 turns (as I've seen others do). In the ap1 it would involve downshifting to 2nd to get that back end to come around then clip that second rumble strip. We'll see how it works in an ap2.
I've been trailbraking for 3 but I think I need to do it more...as in deeper in the turn. Hard to explain...but I have all weekend to figure it out

You take 7 as 2 turns? How? I late apex 7 (not really even hitting the curb), track out and modulate my turning with the throttle as much as possible. Then I find that b-line between 8 and 9.
You weren't talking about 5/6 are you? I'd like some tips on how to take that. It just seems if I take it as 2 turns, then it gets really tight. If I take 5 mid track then I feel I'm better set up for 6 (which theoretically is the more important turn due to the straight).
Originally Posted by ruexp67,Jul 23 2009, 10:58 PM
Keep the shiney side up. 
I find 3 to be the one place on the track where oversteer can be a problem, and trail-braking can induce MORE oversteer. Seems like a bad combo to me, but then I have torque. Even with the A/C on.


I find 3 to be the one place on the track where oversteer can be a problem, and trail-braking can induce MORE oversteer. Seems like a bad combo to me, but then I have torque. Even with the A/C on.





