Well said lower.

And that he is no Senna, fine, he just started. Was Senna "SENNA" in his first year of F1?

Let his racing speak for itself over time. One can't be judged against the greats after the first couple of years.

As for the Senna refs, we all have heroes, nothing wrong with that. But do some of you really believe that in the heat of every moment he is thinking " What would Senna say here now?"? Come on.

 

I have heard things of a similar nature from another reliable source. I mentioned this on another forum and they tried to take my head off as they were "friends of the family",

Yeah, cos everyone washes their dirty laundry in public don't they?

 

Hamilton is many thing, but IMO, he isn't a bully, and wouldn't beat up a classmate unless it was somesort of self defence.

Yes it was his mistake, yes he should have admitted it.

However, the stewards noticed and now he has a penalty for it.

Justice served

 

Have to agree. A daft error, attributable to his lack of experience more than anything else, I'd guess.

On a separate note, I was amused to read that Martin Brundle is in hot water from the bleaters in the equality lobby about his comments on the condition of the track and the "pikey repairs" at one corner

 

[QUOTE=trinis2001,Jun 9 2008, 12:23 PM] Well said lower.

And that he is no Senna, fine, he just started. Was Senna "SENNA" in his first year of F1?

Let his racing speak for itself over time. One can't be judged against the greats after the first couple of years.

As for the Senna refs,

 

I saw Jonny Herbert do that at Donington at the european grandprix.

I think the cars have changed to the point that the driver has much less ability to compensate for a bad car like they used to.

You can't really compare the drivers like that any more. It would be like comparing Fangio and Hamilton.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my memory is that he had a disapointing first few races at Williams and had trouble getting on terms with Damon Hill. And Damon Hill went on to almost win the world championship against Michael Schumacher in that car, so it could hardly have been under-performing.

One of the greats for sure, but I'm not so convinced Senna was any better than the likes of Prost, Piquet or Schumacher. What he is however is dead, and that never does anybody's career any harm.

But if you want an example of an arrogant, obnoxious racing driver with a "win at all costs" attitude, then yes Senna was the best. A bit strange that some people have this idea of "Saint Ayrton".

 

He qualified on pole in the first three races and led all three. Brazil he spun as he was overdriving the other one he got punted off and imola he died. Didnt shuey get soem penlalties that year as well. The Williams problems at the beggining of the season were well documented.
He only ever got that name of win at all costs because he punted Prost off to get revenge in 90. Back in those days you could be a bit more blatant about it, now days they have to be a lot more sneaky to get away with it. The Schumacher Senna and Mansell days were just the best to watch. It would of been phenominal to of seen how that 94 season had of panned out had senna not been killed.

 

Selective vision though when not issuing Kimi with a penalty for stupidly ruining Sutils race at the last GP eh?

Rough justice I call it, what goes around comes around

 

Senna's record in his first F1 season doesn't stack up in terms of results. Admittedly, the standard of equipment he had was (relatively) much better (Toleman became Benneton became Renault).

What I will say is this, in my 25 years watching motor-racing I would say he is up there with the best I've seen in terms of raw, natural talent, he is way ahead of where I would expect him to be for his age, most of the greats didn't really start to get consistent results until their mid-twenties.

He made a mistake in yesterday's GP as LL says probably down to experience, he has made others in the past and will make more in the future it goes to show he is a human being and has similar fallibilities to the rest of us. Schumacher was not immune from mistakes nor was Senna, Prost, Hill

The team informed him of the red light, although whether this was soon enough we don't (and probably won't ever) know. What I do think is that he was probably being talked to on the radio when the incident happened and was hence distracted...

Cheers,

Corgi.