The Formula 1 Thread - 2011
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I thought this particular race was kinda boring too. I have never been keen on any of the Asian races.
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I can imagine it's not so great from the TV...
My thoughts on the race were that Vettel is just out on his own at the moment. But I have to wonder 2 things...
First, what the hell is Hamilton upto? He can't seem to find the balance of agression and finishing at the front. In Italy he tried to finish the race by backing off, and didn't get the points, this race he did something not so clever and lost it. Given how fast he came back up the field, you have to think he could have won were it not for the errors. I do wonder how much his obsession with Senna come into play here. One of the things I remember Brundle saying about Senna was that in the early days, he took a few people out going into corners, and while he lost a few races, the net benefit was everyone knew from then on, he was going to turn in on you, and therefore got out the way. Hope Hamilton isn't trying to emulate that one...
Second one is that after the safety car, the rest of the field, mainly Button, seemed to get left behind. Again, given Button's pace on the last 15 odd laps, you have to wonder if he could have taken it were he not a bit closer up. I guess you don't know how many gears Vettel ahd to go though!
Final points are, wtf was Schumacher doing?! And well done Di Resta. Should get a good seat next year.
I don't know how much of this was covered in the commentary, as I haven't heard any of the wash up.
My thoughts on the race were that Vettel is just out on his own at the moment. But I have to wonder 2 things...
First, what the hell is Hamilton upto? He can't seem to find the balance of agression and finishing at the front. In Italy he tried to finish the race by backing off, and didn't get the points, this race he did something not so clever and lost it. Given how fast he came back up the field, you have to think he could have won were it not for the errors. I do wonder how much his obsession with Senna come into play here. One of the things I remember Brundle saying about Senna was that in the early days, he took a few people out going into corners, and while he lost a few races, the net benefit was everyone knew from then on, he was going to turn in on you, and therefore got out the way. Hope Hamilton isn't trying to emulate that one...
Second one is that after the safety car, the rest of the field, mainly Button, seemed to get left behind. Again, given Button's pace on the last 15 odd laps, you have to wonder if he could have taken it were he not a bit closer up. I guess you don't know how many gears Vettel ahd to go though!
Final points are, wtf was Schumacher doing?! And well done Di Resta. Should get a good seat next year.
I don't know how much of this was covered in the commentary, as I haven't heard any of the wash up.
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Vettel got away after the safety car as Trulli was completely napping.
Vettel bolted and Trulli didn't spot it. Button was 2 cars behind Vettel and he was left nowehere because of Trulli. I'm not sure if the regs permit overtaking until you cross the start finish line so Button was well and trulli screwed.
I have to agree on Hamilton. I believe he has some mind management issues. He is blisteringly quick, but one really stupid error ruined his race yesterday.He had no choice at the start, Webber's positioning forced him to go left, but hitting Massa was an out and out error. I don't thnk he gave any interviews yesterday, but I'd like to hear an explanation as it really doesn't make any sense.
Vettel bolted and Trulli didn't spot it. Button was 2 cars behind Vettel and he was left nowehere because of Trulli. I'm not sure if the regs permit overtaking until you cross the start finish line so Button was well and trulli screwed.
I have to agree on Hamilton. I believe he has some mind management issues. He is blisteringly quick, but one really stupid error ruined his race yesterday.He had no choice at the start, Webber's positioning forced him to go left, but hitting Massa was an out and out error. I don't thnk he gave any interviews yesterday, but I'd like to hear an explanation as it really doesn't make any sense.
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I think Lewis just made a stupid mistake. He ruined both their races, so I'm not surprised Massa felt the need to have a go. Brundle keeps saying you can't see the front wing when sat in the car, so I suspect it's all to easy to make that mistake. Looks like he just turned in a bit too quick. It's easy for us arm chair critics to moan about things like this, but at the end of the day that's racing. It's not like he forced him onto the grass or into the pit wall.
JB got screwed on the restart because he had to sit behind about 5 slower cars. So on the restart Vettel bolts and JB is left fighting his way past back markers until he has clear track. It would have been nice to have seen a straight fight between the two of them, as I think JB had the pace towards the end of the race.
JB got screwed on the restart because he had to sit behind about 5 slower cars. So on the restart Vettel bolts and JB is left fighting his way past back markers until he has clear track. It would have been nice to have seen a straight fight between the two of them, as I think JB had the pace towards the end of the race.
