I think you're letting your obvious man-crush on Hamilton cloud your objectivity in this thread.

I'm a big Button fan and will freely admit that Button isn't probably as quick as Hamilton over one lap (or even multiple laps) unless the car is absolutely perfect for him.

But this year Button is much more of a complete package than Hamilton. His points tally proves it, as does every other measure other than ultimate qualifying pace.

Hamilton needs to translate that speed into race finishes in podium position, something he just hasn't done enough of this year. Whereas Button has.

 

What's logic got to do with talent, talent defies logic. Hamilton is so far ahead of Button in talent it's plain to see for anyone except the haters, Button is a good driver that's all, Hamilton is exceptionally gifted and literally streets ahead.
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That's not even an argument.

just drivel.

I'm not at all a hater, when he's on his game, he's exciting to watch, very fast. But he's off his game, and he's not a big "thinker". He struggles with the long game. Vettel, Button, Schumacher and Alonso have all shown commitment and skill in the long game. For Hamilton to raise his game, he needs to work with the tyres, think about the entire race and produce the results.

"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f@#k the prom queen"
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i think both of them are great champions.

lewis is having a hit season and button is getting the performance and results we all expected him to when he was given the chance of a good car.

 

A very fair assessment

 

I've been watching F1 for a very long time and rate Lewis above Jenson by some margin.

IMO the true measure and speed of a driver is in qualifying. They all have equal weight, equal tyres and equal opportunity. Everything else in F1 is designed to slow the driver down. Lewis has Jenson licked in quali by some margin.

I'd also argue that Lewis has already Button in 2010. Button is best of the rest or first of the losers. He appears happy with that, but Lewis has been making too many mistakes in his pursuit of number 1 spot. Lewis has been racing Vettel, Jenson has been racing Lewis.

That said, Jenson has done a fantastic job - relative to Lewis, not relative to Vettel. Both have to raise their game if they are to win another WDC. Of the 2, Lewis has more upside potential as Jenson appears to have peaked at his current level.

I could be wrong of course and it remains to be seen which of the 2 drivers Mclaren will lean to in 2012. Jenson with a 3 year contract in his back pocket or Lewis who is yet to sign beyond 2012 and therefore could take the coveted No:1 with him away from the team.

Interesting times ahead.

 

In many ways button v Hamilton is like prost vs senna.

 

Lewis is not good enough to be compared to Senna. I'd liken the partnership to Prost/Mansell - not because Jenson can ever be compared to the great Prost in terms of raw speed, more because he is truly adept at the political elements needed to get ahead in this sport.

While Lewis spent the whole of 2010 without a manager, relying on Whitmarsh to take care of his interest, Jenson was getting his feet well and truly under the table. Jenson is the leader in that team because he wanted it and because Lewis allowed him to.

Anyway...

 

I thought fuel loads were different in qualifying? Jenson often goes for a higher fuel load than others, or so it says in his book...

 

First of all who said he couldn't comment , I certainly didn't but someone posting on a forum stating how Hamilton should change his technique is simply funny so I laughed!

However, the fact you think Chilled is skilled enough at driving a race car to have some credibility in advising Hamilton how to drive better because he has done a few laps round the ring and a few track days, and as a forum member is faster than you round a track (then again who isn't ) is simply hilarious and in fact completely nulls and voids your own argument much more than mine.

Hamilton > Button it's simple, the reality is you don't like that situation and anyone else who doesn't like that reality will support your argument. Usually and quite often these people are jealous wannabe haters blinded by their hatred of Hamilton.

Button won a championship because his car had a device on it no-one else had until mid season, by which time he had amassed enough points he simply had to keep the thing on the track, he did enough to win the championship the car did the rest. He is a good driver (in F1 terms), that is all.