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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by alSpeed2k' timestamp='1433718424' post='23639554
It's been so disappointing following the Mclaren Honda team this year.
Honda: Slow, unreliable and thirsty.

Maldanado did well.
Soichiro Honda is spinning so fast in his grave,hes gone into vtec !
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by soulcrew
Originally Posted by Dembo' timestamp='1433753191' post='23639855
[quote name='alSpeed2k' timestamp='1433718424' post='23639554']
It's been so disappointing following the Mclaren Honda team this year.
Honda: Slow, unreliable and thirsty.

Maldanado did well.
Soichiro Honda is spinning so fast in his grave,hes gone into vtec !
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I think McLaren Honda are going to have to write off this whole year as testing, and try to make sure 2016 they are more competitive.............or at least scoring points on a regular basis.

Not the most exciting race, but I'm pleased Lewis walked it. He controlled the race like a champion, and I could never see Rosberg getting within 1 second. Massa had a great start, and watching him racing was great. His overtake on Ericsson was a class act.

Not very happy to hear so much fuel saving going on. I love Canada, and I was hoping for some decent action, but it seemed very subdued.

I had to laugh when I heard Will Steven's for the first time on the radio after he had his nose cut off. He wasn't a happy chap.
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by j8mie
I think McLaren Honda are going to have to write off this whole year as testing, and try to make sure 2016 they are more competitive.............or at least scoring points on a regular basis.
It looks a bit foolish them signing up a superstar top driver for this year. They could have kept Button and Magnussen to get through the development phase, and then gone looking for a top driver for next year.

Canada's one of those places where the cars always look spectacular, and there was a lot of action. Just none of it for the lead once again, but the way things are going it doesn't seem likely that'll change any time this year. To the people moaning about fuel saving: if you hadn't heard the radios and the commentators didn't talk about it, would you have known? Of course not. And if the fuel allowance had been raised they wouldn't necessarily have used the extra.
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by j8mie' timestamp='1433759760' post='23639907
I think McLaren Honda are going to have to write off this whole year as testing, and try to make sure 2016 they are more competitive.............or at least scoring points on a regular basis.
To the people moaning about fuel saving: if you hadn't heard the radios and the commentators didn't talk about it, would you have known? Of course not.
Whether it was fuel, tyres or both, it was pretty apparent that some kind of saving exercise was going on when Raikkonen came out of the pits and went 1.5 seconds quicker than the Mercs. The Ferrari is fast, but no was is it 1.5 seconds quicker than the Mercs.
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BenRNBP
Lots of fuel economical driving, if I wanted that I'd watch Formula E

Very boring for what is normally an exciting race
I found myself watching the TT at the same time
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LTB
Originally Posted by Dembo' timestamp='1433760621' post='23639912
[quote name='j8mie' timestamp='1433759760' post='23639907']
I think McLaren Honda are going to have to write off this whole year as testing, and try to make sure 2016 they are more competitive.............or at least scoring points on a regular basis.
To the people moaning about fuel saving: if you hadn't heard the radios and the commentators didn't talk about it, would you have known? Of course not.
Whether it was fuel, tyres or both, it was pretty apparent that some kind of saving exercise was going on when Raikkonen came out of the pits and went 1.5 seconds quicker than the Mercs. The Ferrari is fast, but no was is it 1.5 seconds quicker than the Mercs.
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It was obvious that the teams were saving fuel or possibly tyres in the second half of the race. The race became a procession compared to the first half.
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 12:20 PM
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Montreal isn't about tyres. It's about brakes and fuel, and in both instances it's the most demanding circuit of the year.

Mercedes were exposed last year when the rear brakes/energy return system failed on both cars. Everybody else learned from that this year, and the name of the game was brake and fuel management.

Having said that, Vettel and Massa had excellent races, and so did Maldonado. Kimi, it would appear, can either race or qualify well, but not both.

McLaren? They're having to go through the humiliating experience of developing a new car and power unit combination in public. And frankly, making a poor job of it. I'm not sure who's in charge at McLaren these days, but it would appear that nobody is. Historically, they've always done well when they've had a mechanical advantage, usually the engine, over everybody else, and the regulations nowadays are too tight for that to happen. Maybe they were hoping that Honda would turn out a power unit with 100bhp to spare, but they've got an embarrassing deficit. At the moment the Honda unit doesn't do anything well, and Alonso's frustration was only too apparent yesterday.

I can only imagine that Jenson Button felt the same, but he's too much of a team player to say it in public.

They're in for a couple more disappointing weekends in Austria and Silverstone as well.
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by j8mie' timestamp='1433759760' post='23639907
I think McLaren Honda are going to have to write off this whole year as testing, and try to make sure 2016 they are more competitive.............or at least scoring points on a regular basis.
It looks a bit foolish them signing up a superstar top driver for this year. They could have kept Button and Magnussen to get through the development phase, and then gone looking for a top driver for next year.
Not really, they can build the car to Alonso' spec by having him test with them, thus getting the best out of car AND driver.
Old Jun 9, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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Alonso painted himself into a corner when the driver-go-round got under way in the early part of last season. Vettel completely wrong-footed him by doing the deal to leave Red Bull and go to Ferrari, leaving Alonso with nowhere to go. As far as having the car designed around him is concerned, he wasn't able to influence Ferrari much beyond having the seating position a little more upright.

I still think that Alonso is probably the most complete driver currently in Formula 1, and he is better than anybody at driving around a problem, for example the tendency of the 2014 Ferrari towards understeer on turn-in, something which Raikkonen never came to terms with. But Alonso can do nothing about a lack of power and a recalcitrant ERS system.

Rumour has it that the Honda is around 100bhp down on Mercedes and Ferrari, but this also points to the fact that, contrary to the last five or six seasons, the McLaren chassis and aero aren't too bad, so there may be hope that they might become competitive if Honda can get their act together. Which may not happen this season.

Whether Alonso can bear to wait until such a time remains to be seen. I suspect that he and McLaren have performance-related break clauses in their contracts. And McLaren still have Kevin Magnussen and Stoffel VanDoorne available.
Old Jun 9, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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So much for this!



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