The Formula 1 Thread - 2018
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From: Stanmore
Here you go: https://www.formula1.com/en/champion...n_gearbox.html
It's in place to try to control costs (by stopping the richer teams replacing everything every race).
What the sporting regulations say:
- Each driver may use no more than one gearbox for six consecutive events.
- Every unscheduled gearbox change will require the driver to drop five places on the grid at that meeting.
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Not (obviously) being an F1 expert, can someone explain that if a driver is allowed X number of engines and X number of gearboxes for the season, how come Hamilton got a huge grid penalty after one race, did he use up all his gearboxes in one go?
This sort of regulation makes it impossible to enjoy F1, that and Mad Max getting away with shoving Hamilton off the track, he got his comeuppance but nothing from the FAI?
This sort of regulation makes it impossible to enjoy F1, that and Mad Max getting away with shoving Hamilton off the track, he got his comeuppance but nothing from the FAI?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...hrain-1022568/
There is a mandatory 6 events for a gearbox to survive.
I'm sure someone like LG will be along shortly with a link to the actual regulation...
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/h...hrain-1022568/
There is a mandatory 6 events for a gearbox to survive.
I'm sure someone like LG will be along shortly with a link to the actual regulation...
There is a mandatory 6 events for a gearbox to survive.
I'm sure someone like LG will be along shortly with a link to the actual regulation...
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Here you go: https://www.formula1.com/en/champion...n_gearbox.html
It's in place to try to control costs (by stopping the richer teams replacing everything every race).
It's in place to try to control costs (by stopping the richer teams replacing everything every race).
A low budget team is just as stuffed as a high budget one so the whole system is self defeating, especially as the low budget teams may rely or cheaper components.
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But he has only used one gearbox, so if that lasts the next five races can he claim a 5 place recovery? and everyone changing a gearbox in the first six races is stuffed, that's stupid!
A low budget team is just as stuffed as a high budget one so the whole system is self defeating, especially as the low budget teams may rely or cheaper components.
A low budget team is just as stuffed as a high budget one so the whole system is self defeating, especially as the low budget teams may rely or cheaper components.
Here's a useful article from a few years back (when the limit was 5 consecutive races), but similar applies. It might help you understand, as a self-confessed "non-expert"
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You're completely wrong. Requiring teams to use the same gearbox for consecutive races forces them to build more durable units which reduces costs.
Here's a useful article from a few years back (when the limit was 5 consecutive races), but similar applies. It might help you understand, as a self-confessed "non-expert"
Here's a useful article from a few years back (when the limit was 5 consecutive races), but similar applies. It might help you understand, as a self-confessed "non-expert"
Wouldn't it be so much easer just to say you get five engines and five gearboxes, use them as you wish, swap then around when you want, repair them if you need to under scrutiny, but they must be the same spec. Only after you run out you get penalised, that would make a more competitive and entertaining season, something the FAI don't seem to want. One comment I got from a casual F1 watcher was "They stuffed the world champion halfway down the field, it's not worth watching now". I tend to agree.
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I was being ironic.
Wouldn't it be so much easer just to say you get five engines and five gearboxes, use them as you wish, swap then around when you want, repair them if you need to under scrutiny, but they must be the same spec. Only after you run out you get penalised, that would make a more competitive and entertaining season, something the FAI don't seem to want. One comment I got from a casual F1 watcher was "They stuffed the world champion halfway down the field, it's not worth watching now". I tend to agree.
Wouldn't it be so much easer just to say you get five engines and five gearboxes, use them as you wish, swap then around when you want, repair them if you need to under scrutiny, but they must be the same spec. Only after you run out you get penalised, that would make a more competitive and entertaining season, something the FAI don't seem to want. One comment I got from a casual F1 watcher was "They stuffed the world champion halfway down the field, it's not worth watching now". I tend to agree.
The race was more entertaining IMO because we got to enjoy the world champion working his way up through the field.
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Danny Ric showing everyone how to get past. Max needs to learn a thing or two from his mentor..
