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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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I would always have said a Mk1 Escort would go up in value, it's a numbers game, lack of supply almost creates demand and given how many are wrecked going rallying, it was inevitable.

XJS Ragtops are beautiful things but mainly because they're ragotops, the ordinary tintop XJS is less special and less rare which means prices won't rise as far or as quickly.

An E or D type it definitely isn't
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by unclefester,Sep 13 2010, 07:58 AM
I would always have said a Mk1 Escort would go up in value, it's a numbers game, lack of supply almost creates demand and given how many are wrecked going rallying, it was inevitable.

XJS Ragtops are beautiful things but mainly because they're ragotops, the ordinary tintop XJS is less special and less rare which means prices won't rise as far or as quickly.

An E or D type it definitely isn't
Well I certainly didn't predict it or I would have bought twenty of the buggers!

I remember them as distinctly average cars and would never have thought that they would now be asking/fetching five figure sums

Most car enthusiasts I know are similarly bemused by the rises - so you are in a select band that saw it coming


You'll find that the ragtop versions of most cars are more valuable than their fixed head counterparts - although they are usually inferior driving machines in the case of moderns that don't have a separate chassis

That often doesn't matter though, mainly because of how they will be used - which isn't being thrashed around a track, but posing and cruising

Which is why I maintain 13/14/15mpg will be a complete irrelvance to whoever eventually buys my big-engined cars

I don't think anyone suggests the XJS is the equivalent of a D type or an E-type - certainly not me
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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Gad IMHO, the only version of the XJS that will increase in value(and price) is the big engined 6.0L version. The smaller engined versions wont be as desirable.

Where i don't agree with you is the version - in this case the one appreciating more will be the coupe not the ragtop model. Thats my opinion.

We shall speak in 5-7 yrs time
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000malta,Sep 13 2010, 11:53 AM
Gad IMHO, the only version of the XJS that will increase in value(and price) is the big engined 6.0L version. The smaller engined versions wont be as desirable.

Where i don't agree with you is the version - in this case the one appreciating more will be the coupe not the ragtop model. Thats my opinion.

We shall speak in 5-7 yrs time
there is very little difference between the 5.3 and 6.0 V12 - I have experience of both engines

performance-wise, the 4.0 is not appreciably slower

the 3.6 is not much slower than the 4.0 but the reason I bought my 3.6's is that they are MANUALS

the 3.6 manual is a very nice car to drive and don't let anyone tell you it's slow - it also does mid twenties mpg and engines are easy to work on (unlike the V12) and plentiful

coups will do well but rag tops always do better

it's the pose factor

same with having the biggest engine


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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 13 2010, 07:46 AM
however, the issue of storage isn't really relevant

I already have the storage

in the same way that most of you have a garage with only bikes and a mower in it

you wouldn't say, if your 'XYZ GTi' had trebled in value in three years, that you should offset that profit against what you could have rented your garage for

would you?

I wouldn't

Depends.

If you have the thing as an investment, then you may want to.

You are assuming your garage /storage space has no intrinsic value, which it clearly does.

Opportunity cost.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:22 AM
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Gad, you should be a mortgage adviser?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Sep 13 2010, 12:21 PM
Depends.

If you have the thing as an investment, then you may want to.

You are assuming your garage /storage space has no intrinsic value, which it clearly does.

Opportunity cost.
who the feck would talk about the opportunity cost of their garage when they eventualy sell their XYZ GTi?



I know I'm older than a lot of you but a few people need to wake up to the idea that (subject to dramatic news) you only live once

and you can't take it with you

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Moggy,Sep 13 2010, 12:22 PM
Gad, you should be a mortgage adviser?
I used to write the exams for them

truly



(well, I managed the team that wrote the exams for them)
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 13 2010, 12:25 PM
who the feck would talk about the opportunity cost of their garage when they eventualy sell their XYZ GTi?



I know I'm older than a lot of you but a few people need to wake up to the idea that (subject to dramatic news) you only live once

and you can't take it with you

You know exactly what I mean!

No, you can't take it with you but you might want to leave a little present for someone.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 13 2010, 12:26 PM
I used to write the exams for them

truly



(well, I managed the team that wrote the exams for them)
That explains a lot.
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