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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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Great thread!

I picked up a 205 Gti 1.9 on the basis that values will probably start to firm up. Miami blue and half leather. Only missing red carpets, but I might change that....

It's passed through it's 'Max Power' phase but still has a fairly high death rate due to rallying, track days and tin worm, so that should deplete the relatively high production numbers. Build quality woes are not so bad (bit like S2000 handling) and the drivers forum is one of the best single model forums.

S2000? Still have mine, but it's got a long way to being classic. It's probably in 'Max Power' phase now - sorry but I like mine standard It has popped up in Classic car mags, and I doubt anyone is going to build something similar, so that will probably help.

On the prediction side, I guess you need to consider what teenagers aspired to and then wind the clock forward to the stage when their subsequent families have finished education, left home, etc.... and suddenly you have teenagers 20+ years older with a bit of action-cash available to buy that dream that was originally just out of reach.

There are of course the oddities which were treated harshly at first - Triumph Stags, Daimler SP250 (Dart),... Problems are a thing of the past and they have now found their feet.

Probably decent BMW 635csi's and M6 will strengthen. Their predecessor the 3.0 csa/i/l/ Batmobile have all strengthened.

TVR Griffith 500's look to be gaining value nicely.

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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 2 2010, 12:55 PM
you may actually 'understand' the XJS then

it's a GT not a sports car
yes, i understand what the XJS was trying to be

it's just that when I think of one, especially a convertible, I get this image of "Charlie" from Lovejoy driving one (I'm showing my age)

although I think he drove a roller

fake tan and matching fake rolex also pop into my head

no offence intended, just my perception




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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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e30 Beemers have already risen in value, so (I think) have 944's.

e34 535i perhaps. Going for peanuts.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GREGSTERWIZ,Sep 2 2010, 09:38 PM
yes, i understand what the XJS was trying to be

it's just that when I think of one, especially a convertible, I get this image of "Charlie" from Lovejoy driving one (I'm showing my age)

although I think he drove a roller

fake tan and matching fake rolex also pop into my head

no offence intended, just my perception
like I said

they are investments

they mean nothing to me beyond that

just lumps of metal and plastic

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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 2 2010, 07:08 PM
perceptions are interesting
One man's banger is another man's classic (or vice versa)

Maybe agree to disagree on the E Type (unless copies of 70's autotrader are forthcoming)
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,Sep 2 2010, 10:08 PM
like I said

they are investments

they mean nothing to me beyond that

just lumps of metal and plastic

Does the cost of the unit you are storing them in for a decade not cancel out any profit you might make in appreciation?

And if you own the unit, would you not make more from a decades rent than the appreciation you may or may not realise?
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by foz,Sep 11 2010, 04:39 PM
Does the cost of the unit you are storing them in for a decade not cancel out any profit you might make in appreciation?

And if you own the unit, would you not make more from a decades rent than the appreciation you may or may not realise?
I would also be interested to hear about cost of insuring a small fleet of stored vehicles for a decade?

Whats electricity like for the heat and fans you run?
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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Assumes one could rent it for a decade - many are empty right now.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by foz,Sep 11 2010, 04:39 PM
Does the cost of the unit you are storing them in for a decade not cancel out any profit you might make in appreciation?

And if you own the unit, would you not make more from a decades rent than the appreciation you may or may not realise?
does the cost of your mortgage outweigh what you could earn from investing the difference between mortage and rent?

would you be better off living in a camper van and investing £1000 a month on the lottery/horse/party poker than paying £1000 a month in mortgage payments?

I really don't know

all I do know is what the unit costs me - and that I don't notice the costs

it's a bit of fun that might turn a profit

at the very least I expect I'll break even - which is more than you can say for most hobbies
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 01:46 AM
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Bit defensive there Pete
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