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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 12:14 PM
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No family car here either, we have other stuff for that.

I traded it for a new GR Yaris, thought I would see what all of the hype was about for myself....

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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 03:18 PM
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Not exactly like for like. Any good? The Yaris seems to have a lot of hype, it doesn't appeal to me on paper
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Old Mar 21, 2023 | 10:58 AM
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Fronts now replaced, £267 so more expensive than the wider rears. Annoying. Anyway I put pilot sport 4s, same as OEM though they are being phased out now

Asda tyres fitted at Mr Tyre

Other than that no other costs, it's sitting on a few hundred off 15k now

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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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This doesn't make great reading.. AVG 2.7m/kWh over the last 8k



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Old Apr 15, 2023 | 12:49 AM
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So it looks like depreciation is about £3k-4k/year from the sample of 2 bought new when first released Sept 2020, one real sale (chris) and one virtual (Nottm). Mine remains for now ideal 'city' Norf*ck car (but see story below!) and assuming I can continue to strike reasonable tariff deals it will stay until at least 5 years old and the maint package expires/road tax begins. Currently just over 5k miles tyres are fine cost has been £130 for fuel in total no road tax £100 maint/year package for 5 years as bought new.

This is a reality BEV story from a real city dweller in Glasgow. Unless you have a £multi million pad with your own garage / charger you are stuffed.
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Old Apr 15, 2023 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by arsie
So it looks like depreciation is about £3k-4k/year from the sample of 2 bought new when first released Sept 2020, one real sale (chris) and one virtual (Nottm). Mine remains for now ideal 'city' Norf*ck car (but see story below!) and assuming I can continue to strike reasonable tariff deals it will stay until at least 5 years old and the maint package expires/road tax begins. Currently just over 5k miles tyres are fine cost has been £130 for fuel in total no road tax £100 maint/year package for 5 years as bought new.

This is a reality BEV story from a real city dweller in Glasgow. Unless you have a £multi million pad with your own garage / charger you are stuffed.
I paid £29k for mine brand new, so depreciaition was only £2.2k/year

Very rough estimate of electric use was around £400 for about 8k miles, so 5p/mile (no special cheap tariff or economical driving)

Fairly happy with that :-)

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Last edited by chrisr111; Apr 15, 2023 at 05:33 AM. Reason: Not sure about electric use....
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 12:29 AM
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I think you benefited from the grant and price hike, that is a great return on what was a new car

They are £37k list now and only the advance is listed on honda site

Nick would probably argue that what you got back for it has depreciated another 20% due to currency (lack of) value

Anyway, I can't figure anything else I give 2 shits about which accommodates the fam and dog so it continues to accumulate the miles

As for the article, no home charging, no deal tbh.. all BEVs except those with a solar array on the roof
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
I think you benefited from the grant and price hike, that is a great return on what was a new car

They are £37k list now and only the advance is listed on honda site

Nick would probably argue that what you got back for it has depreciated another 20% due to currency (lack of) value

Anyway, I can't figure anything else I give 2 shits about which accommodates the fam and dog so it continues to accumulate the miles

As for the article, no home charging, no deal tbh.. all BEVs except those with a solar array on the roof
I think there has to be a BEV future for lots of reasons - we can't continue to be dependant on dodgy regimes for hydrocarbons, and the environment of course. The only way for a large BEV adoption is cheaper electricity. It does not work for home charging @ 35p/kWh when diesel and petrol are almost back to pre Puting kerfuffle.
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisr111
I paid £29k for mine brand new,
How did you swing that? About 10% discount on my Honda dealer's price.
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Old Apr 17, 2023 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tjockhult
I think there has to be a BEV future for lots of reasons - we can't continue to be dependant on dodgy regimes for hydrocarbons, and the environment of course. The only way for a large BEV adoption is cheaper electricity. It does not work for home charging @ 35p/kWh when diesel and petrol are almost back to pre Puting kerfuffle.

a quick compare.. 6k miles family wagon

that's 150 gallons at 40mpg in a Civic sport (note that is probably generous around town, my old GTD did 45 combined it claimed)
i guess it's 145p a litre?
658p per gallon
£987 for fuel for the year
Tax £180
Service £200

total £1367


e - lets assume avg 3m/kwh across calender year (i currently get around 3.3 but in winter it was 2.7)
so 2000 kwh at 32p
fuel £640
tax £0
service £0 (mine has had a £10 pollen filter over its 2 "services" so far

total £640

over 10 years that is £13.7k vs £6.4k

that's assuming high electricity prices continue and tax doesnt change (both will but i have no crystal ball)

they are the same price to buy used right now

2020 e, 24k miles, 22k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...ceDeposit=true


2020 civ sport (10k miles but 69 plate), 21.5k

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...ceDeposit=true

but new = stupid for a japanese built honda (see new ctr for details) so they arent selling any.. cupra born is the same price, bigger, better range, faster... all part of Hexit i guess but that Cupra does probably make £ sense even now
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