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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 07:14 AM
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It's difficult to know Martin. We had aircon on full blast, radio on, lights are led so will use bog all I guess? Had wipers on for a bit. c1% per mile. A 100 mile range then costs 35kw to recharge

10p it's £3.50 - at 114p/l or 517p/gal that is 147mpge
14p it's £4.90 - at 114p that is 105mpge

Either beats 18mpg for the BM or 35 kumkwat by quite a lot but deprec could be ruinous
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 07:27 AM
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Driving the moho has accustomed us to the wonderful discipline and politeness of lane 1 on the motorway amongst the HGVs. Settle down at 60 eh
Apart from the one trip down to see the grands in Sevenoaks an eHonda would be strictly local.
As for depreciation/obsolescence there is a TLA to use: PCP.
Hell they might take my licence away.
Solves everthing.

p.s. on our market tracking elec tariff we pay 6p/unit on average so for 35kW that's about £2 per fill up at home or 60 miles per £
By contrast the Smart car does 240 miles per tankful £24 so 10 miles per £
S2000 240 miles per tank £80 so 3 miles per £
M3 also 3 miles per £.

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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by unclefester
One of those you'd still want in 3 years time and it wouldnt be the Honda which will doubtless need new batteries and have been replaced by a model with 3x the range making yours worth even less
The other one's cheap German shite, so you'd want neither once the warranty explodes. Expires...but that probably applies to most things these days.

If the car mostly sits outside grinning/scowling at one through the window, MPG means FA and depreciation everything. And dep'n > monthly rent.

So you'd have to do some serious miles (and serious hanging around at charging points) to make these buzz-boxes really work. Then they'd stuff you even more on the rent.



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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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BTW, if you want really daft, rumours persist that the little sports car off the e-plank is due to come out as the CR-Z.

With the GM H2 FC under the bonnet for the Yo-ETEC effect. There's probably about three places here you could fill it up...
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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you're correct, on fuel numbers it makes little sense, top is mpg, different annual miles down the side and costs across

then e version - 100 to 140mpge at 12p per KW (high according to our resident expert @arsie )

my house are probably in the yellow bit in terms of spend, mixed mpg tween kumkwat and BM (ignore the S2s), i could go red if we used the M3 for it all.
then add road tax (£570 and rising faster than UK national debt)
add breakage cos it's well old
and daft service costs (how often do you service an electric mower?)

basically that M will cost £1k before it moves + £2k deprec, £1k fuel, £1k fixing.. could be £5k a year, £25k over 5 years if it lasts that long

in that time a 5yr service plan on the e is £700, £0 road tax, fuel £2k but depreciation?

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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Buy a kia Niro E if yiu want efficient white goods. Its a better car.
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by unclefester
Buy a kia Niro E if yiu want efficient white goods. Its a better car.
SUVs appeal to me like.covid to a care home

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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 02:30 PM
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Kumquat

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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by unclefester
Kumquat
Not mine, never drive it. The very reason this e is pondered
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 02:13 AM
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Well, get it rented and throw that old Borgward Macht Weiter and the Datsun in the river.

You can always hire a proper ICE car for when you need one.

Let us know how that works out.
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