Not comparable but they are both cars
filled up the boosted S2
£70

172 miles

1.81 a litre / 821 a gallon

8.5 gals

20mpg! I was impressed
41p a mile.. or, at current tariff 1.28kwh equiv

So 0.78m/kWh equiv I think - 21% of the economy of the e I make that
fun though and I do bog all miles
My e I don't subsidise the car with a more expensive house tariff (eg Go) as I have nothing else to benefit from that, batts etc. though I will run numbers again.

It's approaching 13k miles at 2yrs and 2 months, didn't see much action as a demo before it arrived here
Rear boots are fooked now. Fat b%stard with a heavy right foot to blame. Rog borrowed it. Err

 

Fat bast I admit, but my right foot Miss Daisy wouldn't even feel on her ****

 

Instavolt now charging 75p a kWh
wow.. at 3.5m/kWh that is 21.4p a mile
at 750p a gallon that is 35mpg

It doesn't really impact me as I last used public charging in the summer but that is beyond ridiculous. Anyone buying a BEV now without solar and with a public charging need is a special twat

 

BEVs make a lot of sense to company car drivers. A BMW 320 lease is £ 300 p.m. but the BIK doubles that to £ 600. A Tesla 3 lease is £ 600 with no BIK. But the running costs are much lower IF you can charge at home. And there is hardly any maintenance. I believe that's why you see a lot of Tesla 3s on the road. But the chancellor will probably put some taxes on BEVs on Nov 19.

 

True but I think it's a rare use case these days
I think most Tesla's are leased by SEN folk A builder at my lads school had one briefly. >£700pcm lease. It's gone now replaced by a leaf.

I would buy a turbo civic or something 100% ICE atm if I needed a car

 

Yes it is falling, but still some 800,000 company cars, or some 8-10%. https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...tary-july-2021

 

Wow that is more than I thought
always been an IT gonk so it's not something we would ever need

And now we all WFH
I think of not for the kid my e would be gone because I have no faith in the gov to sort their shit out at all. I think this rumbles on for a very long time as is. As demand calms I may fit solar but some of the tech is garbage and at the moment you cannot be picky and are paying top dollar

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.m...x-28475842.amp

The games up for EV cars not paying tax. I agree that they should be paying, councils cannot afford to patch up roads and meanwhile heavier cars like EVs are pounding the roads and getting away with it. Basing tax on emissions is and has always been completely wrong. For example.... Why should an 06 s2000 pay 600 quid tax, when a 1999 s2000 pays nearly 300 quid a year less? ( based on emissions).
The whole car tax system needs a major overhaul, has needed it for years.
I believe that ANYTHING driven on the roads should pay tax, including 1970s Ford shitters on their way to car shows..
Too much tax is thrown at fuel duty. The house of Lords should look at car tax law changes and grow some balls.

 

IMO car tax needs an overhaul, yes. some combination of emissions/power/value for ICE cars and weight/power/value for pure EVs

i also think the amount should be front-loaded, decreasing with as the car gets older. this would grently dissuade the public from endlessly signing up for 2 year leases and getting new every time, and help out those with the oldest, cheapest cars who can probably least afford it.

however (and i say this as someone who pays the aforementioned £600) i dont think the change should be retroactive. i knew how much it cost to tax when i bought it, and signed up for that (same for the other car that costs 30 times less a year)

also, i wonder how much they'd want for the 50 year old vespa that chugs out burnt castol with every rev!

 

I have 2 bikes and 3 cars and don't fancy being more of a tax victim than I already am thanks

Maybe a bogoff is in order?.I can't drive 3 at once


when they crashed the economy I took the bikes and one car off the road in protest as much as anything else. Never done that before but very tired of throwing money at this incompetent regime

It was always going to happen to BEVs. Just a licence to print money of people support it though. I take a very different position and detest all this stealth taxation the Tories love

As I said, for me BEVs are not viable at all currently and the gov are doing the apparent square root of **** all to solve that whilst pushing the country into poverty

I would be stunned if they made any sense apart from the company car drivers mentioned above

I won't be staying in a BEV without motivation


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