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From: Plymouth
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
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From: La Massana, Principat D'Andorra
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
On the bike I wouldn't bother because I can overtake pretty much anything whenever I want, but in the car I need to get past these numpties whenever I have the chance.
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From: On the back wheel. . .
Originally Posted by m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
On the bike I wouldn't bother because I can overtake pretty much anything whenever I want, but in the car I need to get past these numpties whenever I have the chance.
Originally Posted by Highway code
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26]
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
It was necessary so I could pass something, but was it necessary to pass it, if you see my point?
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From: La Massana, Principat D'Andorra
Originally Posted by Welshman' timestamp='1318755031' post='21074143
[quote name='m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408']
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
On the bike I wouldn't bother because I can overtake pretty much anything whenever I want, but in the car I need to get past these numpties whenever I have the chance.
Originally Posted by Highway code
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26]
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
It was necessary so I could pass something, but was it necessary to pass it, if you see my point?
[/quote]
Dan
I see your point. Clearly I use the first interpretation.That stretch is a 70 limit and most drive along it at 40 until they pass the end of the hatched bit - about 400 metres - so I take the view that it's necessary for me to pass them so I can drive at the legal limit, unless of course if there is a queue waiting to use the right turn - there rarely is.
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From: Hertford
I think the point is the zonbies have covered the ground in pigeon shit sice they think they know better than one's own judgment. Or in fact, simply to waste public money in pursuit of their own careers.
As stated, the hatched areas are a hazard to bikes & cars bescuse of the crap that accumulates. Just don't have a prang in one.
As stated, the hatched areas are a hazard to bikes & cars bescuse of the crap that accumulates. Just don't have a prang in one.
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From: On the back wheel. . .
Originally Posted by Dan Hale' timestamp='1318764965' post='21074231
[quote name='Welshman' timestamp='1318755031' post='21074143']
[quote name='m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408']
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
[quote name='m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408']
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
On the bike I wouldn't bother because I can overtake pretty much anything whenever I want, but in the car I need to get past these numpties whenever I have the chance.
Originally Posted by Highway code
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26]
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
It was necessary so I could pass something, but was it necessary to pass it, if you see my point?
[/quote]
Dan
I see your point. Clearly I use the first interpretation.That stretch is a 70 limit and most drive along it at 40 until they pass the end of the hatched bit - about 400 metres - so I take the view that it's necessary for me to pass them so I can drive at the legal limit, unless of course if there is a queue waiting to use the right turn - there rarely is.
[/quote]
I should have said "one" rather than "you".
I use them too.
One idiot this morning wouldn't pass a cyclist by going into the hatchings to do so, we ended up at 10mph (in a 30 zone) stuck behind it.
It's this sort of thing that leads me to believe that "common sense" should be re-branded as "rare sense", as no fecker seems to have it any more....
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From: La Massana, Principat D'Andorra
Originally Posted by Welshman' timestamp='1318838375' post='21076080
[quote name='Dan Hale' timestamp='1318764965' post='21074231']
[quote name='Welshman' timestamp='1318755031' post='21074143']
[quote name='m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408']
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
[quote name='Welshman' timestamp='1318755031' post='21074143']
[quote name='m1bjr' timestamp='1318716449' post='21073408']
Sure you can legally use the box with broken lines, but the highway code itself guides against it.
Presumably its hatched for a reason?
And as a biker yourself, I'm sure you are only too aware of the crap and debris that accumilates in such 'islands'.
Don't see the point of it tbh.
On the bike I wouldn't bother because I can overtake pretty much anything whenever I want, but in the car I need to get past these numpties whenever I have the chance.
Originally Posted by Highway code
[Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26]
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
130
Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
if the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so
if the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
It was necessary so I could pass something, but was it necessary to pass it, if you see my point?
[/quote]
Dan
I see your point. Clearly I use the first interpretation.That stretch is a 70 limit and most drive along it at 40 until they pass the end of the hatched bit - about 400 metres - so I take the view that it's necessary for me to pass them so I can drive at the legal limit, unless of course if there is a queue waiting to use the right turn - there rarely is.
[/quote]
I should have said "one" rather than "you".
I use them too.
One idiot this morning wouldn't pass a cyclist by going into the hatchings to do so, we ended up at 10mph (in a 30 zone) stuck behind it.
It's this sort of thing that leads me to believe that "common sense" should be re-branded as "rare sense", as no fecker seems to have it any more....
[/quote]
To slightly misquote HL Mencken - "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the British public."
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From: Glasgow
Had a peach yesterday. A range rover vogue overtook me and two other cars in one go driving on a 30mph road. I was at the front doing maybe 33/34 mph and this guy barrelled past me and the two other cars on the wrong side of the road. Top quality driving.
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From: In Bed..... fordshire
We shouldn't be surprised at the level of ignorance out there. Take dual carriageways with a central reservation - the NSL on these roads is 70, not 60. On the A449 between Ombersley and Worcester - which is one such road - there are 2 speed cameras Southbound and one Northbound - around a third of drivers will slow to 60 as they approach these. On the Northbound carriageway as you come off the first roundabout from Jcn 6 of the M5 the outside lane is covered in white hatched markings but with a broken white line dividing the two lanes - so you can use the outside lane to overtake if it's safe to do so. I will on average get at least one horn blast from the sheep in lane 1 when I use the hatched lane to overtake them.