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Old May 7, 2016 | 07:26 AM
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The track looks very much like NJMP Thunderbolt except not nearly as safe and ran in the opposite direction.

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Old May 8, 2016 | 04:30 PM
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Signed up for Shenandoah next weekend!
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:19 PM
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Well damnit, Track night in 'merica just changed their roll bar Policy to one that makes no sense.

Good Afternoon,

It was recently brought to our attention that the Track Night convertible policy is in need of clarification and updating. Effective immediately, the new policy will be:

It is highly recommended that all convertible vehicles be equipped with an aftermarket roll bar that meets or exceeds the standards set in the SCCA Time Trials rules. However, convertible vehicles may participate in Track Night events provided the vehicle meets at least on of the following criteria and is not subject to any of the below exceptions:

- The vehicle is equipped with an aftermarket roll bar that meets or exceeds the standards set in the SCCA Time Trials rules.

- The vehicle is equipped with documented factory installed roll over protection (examples of manufacture documented roll over protection would include hydroformed and reinforced a-pillars or windshield frames and factory installed roll bars and/or “pop-up” bars that are designated as roll over protection.

- The Vehicle is a 2006-year model or newer.


Exceptions: In addition, vehicles that were manufactured since 2006 that fall into any of the below categories must meet the criteria stated above for factory or aftermarket roll over protection:

- Vehicles equipped with factory V8 or forced induction engine

- Vehicles modified meaningfully beyond the factory performance potential (examples: engine swaps, aftermarket forced induction)

We at Track Night would like to remind that the participant is responsible for the inspection and eligibility of his/her vehicle. We are happy to answer questions and make suggestions. However, we urge anyone who is currently, or planning to participate in a Track Night event in a convertible vehicle without an aftermarket roll bar to research and confirm the manufactures position on the safety features put in place from the factory.

Please note that the policy change also effects vehicles that were build prior to 2006 that were previously participating with a hard top, but without a bar. Vehicles in this configuration will no longer be eligible. Anyone who is registered in such a configuration is eligible for a full refund and may initiate the process by replying to this email. We apologize for any frustration this may cause.

Finally, we would like to underline the appropriateness of roll bars in vehicles driven on track. While there are other criteria that will allow participation, an aftermarket, approved bar is the best and preferred configuration.

For more information on roll bars, their specifications and applications we recommend contacting Track Night Technical Partner, Autopower Industries or visiting their website at http://www.autopowerindustries.com/

If you have questions, please feel free to ask.

Looking Forward,

-h
So my 2002 is not ok, but a 2006+ is fine.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 01:00 PM
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Just saw this same topic in NY Metro.

Just last week (at Pocono) there was a stock S2000 running in the Novice group.

- The vehicle is equipped with documented factory installed roll over protection (examples of manufacture documented roll over protection would include hydroformed and reinforced a-pillars or windshield frames and factory installed roll bars and/or “pop-up” bars that are designated as roll over protection.
I'm pretty sure the S2000 has what is bolded above.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by freq
Just saw this same topic in NY Metro.

Just last week (at Pocono) there was a stock S2000 running in the Novice group.

- The vehicle is equipped with documented factory installed roll over protection (examples of manufacture documented roll over protection would include hydroformed and reinforced a-pillars or windshield frames and factory installed roll bars and/or “pop-up” bars that are designated as roll over protection.
I'm pretty sure the S2000 has what is bolded above.
Yep, turns out S2000s are ok. I could never find documentation of the rollover proection in the past, but Documentation is here at the bottom:
http://news.honda.com/newsandviews/a...20010220001302
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Old May 9, 2016 | 06:10 PM
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Lol that 2006 thing makes no sense, esp

Exceptions: In addition, vehicles that were manufactured since 2006 that fall into any of the below categories must meet the criteria stated above for factory or aftermarket roll over protection:

- Vehicles equipped with factory V8 or forced induction engine

- Vehicles modified meaningfully beyond the factory performance potential (examples: engine swaps, aftermarket forced induction)
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Old May 10, 2016 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by clarkster009
Lol that 2006 thing makes no sense, esp

Exceptions: In addition, vehicles that were manufactured since 2006 that fall into any of the below categories must meet the criteria stated above for factory or aftermarket roll over protection:

- Vehicles equipped with factory V8 or forced induction engine

- Vehicles modified meaningfully beyond the factory performance potential (examples: engine swaps, aftermarket forced induction)
Which means a new Mustang V6 convertible is fine, but an equally fast ecoboost convertible is not. Or a 300hp 06+ mod motor convertible is a no-go, while a cyclone-powered 2011+ is acceptable. This also hypothetically rules out a newer 2/3/428i convertibles since they're 2.0t, while the old equally powered I6 in the e90 328i or 128i is fine. That doesn't make any sense.

Good thing I have a Rockstar Garage bar in my 04.
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Old May 10, 2016 | 05:44 AM
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The language certainly could've been clearer. I guess they were trying to cover their bases in terms of ruling out higher hp/faster cars that don't have rollover protection, but there are obviously some loopholes in there as you pointed out duffman..
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Old May 10, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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Only thing I can think of is maybe there were different safety guidelines passed in '06? Idk, but it's definitely a wierd rule and the way the go about determining safe power numbers seems really goofy.

On the plus side, the weather sucks so it's probably a good thing TNIA got canceled for today.
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Old May 11, 2016 | 09:21 AM
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good point dave!
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