Taking it to the track
Originally Posted by Ek9,Aug 29 2006, 11:00 AM
I consider Beaver and VIR to be "in the area". Does Beaver let you go without a bar? When I went there once, they were pretty lax.
VIR is not what I'd consider "in the area." That's a haul!
Originally Posted by civicguyinva,Aug 29 2006, 12:00 PM
Skip - I didn't know you were into this stuff. I'm glad you got things straightened out with your instructor. I'm sure it's gonna be a ball buster when I have an instructor tell me I suck, but its part of the process I suppose.
The instructor's first concern and most important is to make sure you get around the track safely. The second is to help you with the line. The third is to make you better. Number three usually leads to number four: make you faster.
It shouldn't be a ball-buster event. Just go in with the notion that you don't know squat. As Ek9 pointed out, you need to drive like the instructor wants you to- not how you want to drive. Later, you can do as you see fit.
My instructor let me run by myself my first day for 1 or 2 sessions. That's not normal. He did say that if I offed, he was going to be pissed because it might cost him free track time.
Like I said before, I'm a quick learner... once I open my mind.
From where I live, Beaver and VIR are about eqi-distant. Summit's 45 minutes away.
I never had an instructor tell me I suck even when I did but, I wasn't that kid in the back of the class who thought he knew more then the teacher either. You're not going to agree with everything they tell you, you'll get different lines from each instructor you have. Some of them know FF cars and not RWD. Some of them have high HP FWD and don't know how to drive a momentum car like the '2k. Some of them don't give a shit and some will be more competitive than you want to be too.
If you have a pleasent attitude, listen to what they say (or even pretend to when you don't agree) you'll have a decent time. Sometimes one of them'll tell me something I'll think is bullshit, then after I've gotten home, I finally get what he was saying.
I never had an instructor tell me I suck even when I did but, I wasn't that kid in the back of the class who thought he knew more then the teacher either. You're not going to agree with everything they tell you, you'll get different lines from each instructor you have. Some of them know FF cars and not RWD. Some of them have high HP FWD and don't know how to drive a momentum car like the '2k. Some of them don't give a shit and some will be more competitive than you want to be too.
If you have a pleasent attitude, listen to what they say (or even pretend to when you don't agree) you'll have a decent time. Sometimes one of them'll tell me something I'll think is bullshit, then after I've gotten home, I finally get what he was saying.
Originally Posted by Ek9,Aug 29 2006, 12:33 PM
From where I live, Beaver and VIR are about eqi-distant. Summit's 45 minutes away.
Where can I get info on FATT?
http://www.summitpoint-raceway.com/ is rather useless. It has a link to the weather and directions. That's about it.
I found one site that doesn't look very official at all, but stated every friday through november is booked solid with a waiting list.
http://www.summitpoint-raceway.com/ is rather useless. It has a link to the weather and directions. That's about it.
I found one site that doesn't look very official at all, but stated every friday through november is booked solid with a waiting list.
Only places that do not require a rollbar around here are BeavRun and Summit Point but it still depends on the club running at the track. Audi at Summit Point will require a rollbar while GWS Mercedes at Summit Point does not require a rollbar in the S2000. VIR requires an external rollbar. If you are going to track your car regularly get a rollbar for your S2000.
You will want a larger front swaybar if you run a front tire larger than the OEM fronts (205). I run 225 or 245s in front (depending on event) and the larger front swaybar really helps.
You should also get a decent alignment.
You will also need pads (XP8 are a good pad) and fluid but that is about it (beside a helmet of course).
You will want a larger front swaybar if you run a front tire larger than the OEM fronts (205). I run 225 or 245s in front (depending on event) and the larger front swaybar really helps.
You should also get a decent alignment.
You will also need pads (XP8 are a good pad) and fluid but that is about it (beside a helmet of course).
ya I completely forgot about a helmet ....I need to start a checklist. I'm going to stick to only summit for now. This will not be a full race car and would REALLY like to stay away from a roll cage.
What kind of helmet do I have to have? I'm assuming they have different ratings.
What kind of helmet do I have to have? I'm assuming they have different ratings.
Originally Posted by TubeDriver,Aug 29 2006, 12:53 PM
it still depends on the club running at the track. Audi at Summit Point will require a rollbar while GWS Mercedes at Summit Point does not require a rollbar in the S2000. VIR requires an external rollbar. If you are going to track your car regularly get a rollbar for your S2000.
You want a SA2000 or SA2005 helmet. Don't get an M rated helmet or you will regret it. They are not allowed at most events because they are made motorcycles (your head hitting pavement as opposed to a roll bar)
BSR
http://www.bsr-inc.com/FATT.HTM
Every club has it's own event insurance. If their insurance says, no convertibles without rollbars then that's all she wrote. Same thing for timing equipment. East coast seems pretty anal compared to west coast. The Redline guys looked like west coasters because they seemed to just throw people on the track with few rules (how it looked from a spectator perspective, I saw a three wide pass on the entry to the bridge straight).
VIR's a professional place. Their flag workers will black flag you if you don't meet the broomstick rule (which is another reason to keep the top up).
I have my rollbar on order. Being a gawky American, I stick out above the factory roll protection.
civicguyinva, you seem to be setting yourself up for problems. It's their event to run however they wish. They can toss you out at will if they want to. I've seen cases where no instructor would ride with a noob so, they just had to go home. My advice, do your homework, keep your mouth shut and enjoy yourself as much as possible.
http://www.bsr-inc.com/FATT.HTM
Every club has it's own event insurance. If their insurance says, no convertibles without rollbars then that's all she wrote. Same thing for timing equipment. East coast seems pretty anal compared to west coast. The Redline guys looked like west coasters because they seemed to just throw people on the track with few rules (how it looked from a spectator perspective, I saw a three wide pass on the entry to the bridge straight).
VIR's a professional place. Their flag workers will black flag you if you don't meet the broomstick rule (which is another reason to keep the top up).
I have my rollbar on order. Being a gawky American, I stick out above the factory roll protection.
civicguyinva, you seem to be setting yourself up for problems. It's their event to run however they wish. They can toss you out at will if they want to. I've seen cases where no instructor would ride with a noob so, they just had to go home. My advice, do your homework, keep your mouth shut and enjoy yourself as much as possible.







