The random, off-topic thread.
He's talking about metal fatigue regarding the individual corner jacking points. Plus, it's just more work and more time to jack up each corner individually.
And you might as well just come out and say it, Ellen...
And you might as well just come out and say it, Ellen...
the more I think about this the less I would be concerned with jacking a corner of the car.
jacking car presents a DC input into the system, that is monotonic and very gradual. metal just does not tend to fatigue much in this mode. sure you'll get some minor deflection but it is very limited.
now compare that to the forces generated dynamically by coming down the back straight, hammering the brakes torqueing it from side to side and hammering out the next straightaway clipping the sideboard as you go....
I haven't got the data to back it up but i would suspect half a lap does more damage than a lifetime of jack lifts.
jacking car presents a DC input into the system, that is monotonic and very gradual. metal just does not tend to fatigue much in this mode. sure you'll get some minor deflection but it is very limited.
now compare that to the forces generated dynamically by coming down the back straight, hammering the brakes torqueing it from side to side and hammering out the next straightaway clipping the sideboard as you go....
I haven't got the data to back it up but i would suspect half a lap does more damage than a lifetime of jack lifts.
Originally Posted by CTMechE,Jan 23 2008, 03:33 PM
He's talking about metal fatigue regarding the individual corner jacking points. Plus, it's just more work and more time to jack up each corner individually.
And you might as well just come out and say it, Ellen...
And you might as well just come out and say it, Ellen...
and i don't think erick has any problems jacking up cars - it's not a lot of work at all
That is the type of lift I USED TO HAVE - the one buried under all the crap in the "Ellen's Lift" post a couple months ago
I think it lifted the car 36" or so - a good height to fit in most standard garages and do almost any work you would need to access under the car for other than maybe exhaust work could really suck
I think it lifted the car 36" or so - a good height to fit in most standard garages and do almost any work you would need to access under the car for other than maybe exhaust work could really suck
Yeah, I'm not concerned with fatigue from jacking up each corner individually, but that seemed to be what he was implying with the coat hanger analogy. I've always done one corner at a time on my other cars. (I've yet to jack up the S2000, which is why I was asking earlier to find out what's easiest and best recommended)
Originally Posted by boltonblue,Jan 23 2008, 03:35 PM
the more I think about this the less I would be concerned with jacking a corner of the car.
Originally Posted by CTMechE,Jan 23 2008, 03:33 PM
And you might as well just come out and say it, Ellen...
I'm going to be good
I will probably be bad enough this weekend so I should behave the rest of the week. And I don't even have beer to use as an excuse right now 
A garage and lift are definitely on MY long term life goals. I think a 6 or 8 bay garage should cover things... with parts storage, paint booth...
Originally Posted by CTMechE,Jan 23 2008, 03:39 PM
Yeah, I'm not concerned with jacking up each corner individually, but that seemed to be what he was implying. I've always done one corner at a time on my other cars. (I've yet to jack up the S2000, which is why I was asking earlier to find out what's easiest and best recommended)
And clearly it is not the way to go when you consider my other two concerns, time and safety.







