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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ubetit,Apr 10 2007, 07:54 AM
You did make a rookie mistake.

My Rules of restaurant/bar tabs.


1. Always get separate tabs
2. Somenone will always eat/drink more than you and either not pay or want to split it. See rule #1
3. NEVER open a bar tab unless you fully expect to pay all of it. See rule #1
a rookie mistake is taking strangers out and not expecting to get screwed at the end. These guys are supposed to be my friends, hence the whole point of this thread. Let me make it clear again, that the big tab at the end was no suprise to anyone, I just got screwed by my friends in the end. I did learn a lesson about these guys though and my generousity towards these people is finished.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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[QUOTE=trainwreck,Apr 9 2007, 01:06 PM] well then, i guess ur solution is invite ur friends, profile each one on their spending habits.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gotrice02,Apr 10 2007, 09:05 AM
Sometimes the circumstances are different... In my mind, I would have no problem spending a little extra on a tab if my buddy treated me to a limo on a special occasion. Gratitude and even fairness is shown by action.
If you expect me to chip into the cost of the limo then say it upfront, otherwise stop bitching about it afterwards...
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GT_2003,Apr 10 2007, 09:26 AM


unless you let everyone know ahead of time, you can't expect everyone to expect their tab for the evening is going to run ~$100. You can't know everyone's financial situation, so why be sour about it? I've been in similar situtions, on both sides. You get invited to a night out, and fully expect to pay your share. Then you witness some people spending money like it's water, and others are drinking water :/ In that situation, keep in mind that karma rules. Suck it up this time, and your friends certainly won't forget it. (Unless you already knew from history that they are cheap, in which case, you should have expected it.) I buy drinks for people all the time, and it always comes back in spades.

IMHO, the host has the responsibility to make it a good time for everyone, not a financial burden for his "friends." Consider that your two friends are perhaps questioning whether they want to go anywhere with you again, if you are being sour over money.
Before posting, read the thread so I dont have to keep repeating the same thing.

Let me say again that these guys knew what the tab was going to be AND what was in store for the evening, there was no suprise. Yes, I do know their financial situations because I have known these people for a long time and they have decent jobs and make pretty good money. I am not sour about the money, I am sour because their cheapness at the end made my wife feel like they were just there for a free night, which shouldn't have been the case. I also buy people drinks all of the time, but its nice to get back sometimes and that doesnt seem to happen very much these days.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by clawhammer,Apr 10 2007, 09:35 AM
If you expect me to chip into the cost of the limo then say it upfront, otherwise stop bitching about it afterwards...
Again, read the thread before posting, dumb fuk.

- I paid for the limo, told everyone that I was paying for the limo, and asked for nothing in that regards. We are discussing the bar tab and every aspect of the evening was brought up and discussed with everyone before we left.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by clawhammer,Apr 10 2007, 10:35 AM
If you expect me to chip into the cost of the limo then say it upfront, otherwise stop bitching about it afterwards...
he's not *bitching* about the limo....he's shocked with the lack of gratitude shown by his *friends*.

he's *bitching* about the bar tab.

so, if i read the math correctly, between the 6 other people, they only put in - say - 33 bucks each? i don;t know where you live, but in toronto, a premium (not rail) bar drink (2.5 shots) is 8-10 bucks + tip and tax.

so, if i were to walk in somewhere and have just ONE drink, i would expect to leave $10-13.

now, you mention champagne, etc....if that was your treat to toast the wife, that's on you...guys don't usually *order* champagne as a drink....so let's knock off $200 for champers and yours/wife's drinks.

diff. of $300 = all SIX of your buddies stiffed you 50 bucks each.

sorry, but i'd ask for it....and have in the past.

my biggest peave in life is people that are cheap....

1. if you can't afford to go out with me, stay home.
2. if you don't like the payment arrangements, speak up.

hell, there have been times when i know someone is getting ripped off and i try to correct it even though the payment arrangements are in my favour.

you are right in feeling the way you do....but i'd still bring it up and try and get some cash back.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PLYRS 3,Apr 10 2007, 09:46 AM
he's not *bitching* about the limo....he's shocked with the lack of gratitude shown by his *friends*.

he's *bitching* about the bar tab.

so, if i read the math correctly, between the 6 other people, they only put in - say - 33 bucks each?
yes, I am complaining about the lack of gratitude. More than anything, I know that my wife was a little upset the next day after I explained everything because it seemed like they were only there for themselves. Again, its not about the money...i have spent plenty on outings before. try 40K for my wedding 2 years ago and 9k for my mom's b-day last year.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gotrice02,Apr 10 2007, 10:09 AM
that the big tab at the end was no suprise to anyone, I just got screwed by my friends in the end. I did learn a lesson about these guys though and my generousity towards these people is finished.
I feel your pain brother. I had to add a rule though.


1. Always get separate tabs
2. Somenone will always eat/drink more than you and either not pay or want to split it. See rule #1
3. NEVER open a bar tab unless you fully expect to pay all of it. See rule #1
4. Friends and family are the worst offenders. See rule #1
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Do you know for certain that everyone drank the same amount of alcohol and that your friends should owe more money? You are making the assumption that everyone drank the same and therefore each person owed you more money. Your friends may be thinking to themselves right now that you are the "scumbag" for expecting them to pay more when they didn't drink as much as you and your wife. There are always 2 sides to the coin.

Also, why are you bitching about the tab when you decided to get a private table and bottle service? If you wanna be a "baller" and get private tables and bottle service, suck it up.
Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ubetit,Apr 10 2007, 09:54 AM
4. Friends and family are the worst offenders. See rule #1
LOL, doesn't seem right does it?



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