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Beef
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Old May 2, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Chinese food isn't bad !!


If you want to get big eat 1.5 grams of protien everyday for every pound you weigh. Also try to spread out your protein intake to 6-7 meals, so that's about every 2 hours. You must drink aleast a gallon of water a day. Don't do cardio if you want to add size, can't be lean while you want a size. My advice is that you should really dial in your diet.

Creatine just add water into your body once your off it, you'll lose everything. If you want to increase in strength you got to lift heavy and eat like a horse. Only way to move up in strength and size. Give No2 a shot it gives you a nice pump while you work out and does increase your strength.

Other thing that you might want to try is superdrol which is discontinued but it does what it says. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who is under the age of 21 and who hasn't been lifting weight more than 3 years.

I'm 5'8 and i'm about 172 pound with about 10% bodyfat and still growing =)
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Old May 2, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Jason I live an hour away from work and still managed to get a routine going with 60 hour working weeks and uni study.

Do you have a fridge at work? If not can you use an esky?

I'm currently on a keto diet (60%fat 35%prot 5%carb) and I buy a bbq chicken and ceasar salad every monday and split it into disposable containers that I keep in my fridge at work and raid them every couple of hours. I also keep a big stash of almonds on my desk that I graze on and I never get cravings or crash out even though I've been cutting for some time.

When I was bulking I used to buy lots of tins of salmon and a big bag of basmati rice and whenever I had time to sit down I'd knock a bowl down. You can do the same and if you don't like salmon just roast up some chicken breasts on sunday and wednesday nights and ration them out so they're fresh.

WRT limit: Most people feel like they're pushing themselves as hard as they can until someone like Lance Armstrong rides past them and does twice as many laps. Most of us are not pushing our bodies natural limits enough to warrant supplements like creatine or even steroids. First point of action should be making certain that you've addressed your natural variables 100% i.e sleeping well and eating well then if you feel like you're training so hard and consistent that your body is at its limit then you can look at other measures.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Austblue,May 2 2006, 07:28 PM
Jason I live an hour away from work and still managed to get a routine going with 60 hour working weeks and uni study.

Do you have a fridge at work? If not can you use an esky?
I was going to say the same thing- why dont you make your meals every day like most people and bring to work?

Not only will you have a much more nutritious meal, but you are saving a hell of a lot of $$$$...

I always make more then enough at dinner so that I have leftovers for work the next day. Or I wake up 5 minutes early and make a turky/ham sandwhich for lunch.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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chicken breast, lean steak. tuna, chicken breast, chicken breast.

protein powder from costco. if anyone says its shit search it on forum.bodybuilding.com

$25 for 6 pounds. can't beat it. i forgot the name.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Here's a good shopping list too...

Originally Posted by bodybuilding.com
Proteins


Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
Tuna (water packed)
Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut)
Shrimp
Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
Protein Powder
Egg Whites or Eggs
Ribeye Steaks or Roast
Top Round Steaks or Roast (aka Stew Meat, London Broil, Stir Fry)
Top Sirloin (aka Sirloin Top Butt)
Beef Tenderloin (aka Filet, Filet Mignon)
Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
Flank Steak (Sir Fry, Fajita)
Eye of Round (Cube Meat, Stew Meat, Bottom Round , 96% LeandGround Round)
Ground turkey, Turkey Breast Slices or cutlets (fresh meat, not deli cuts)


Complex Carbs

Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
Oat Bran Cereal
Brown Rice
Farina (Cream of Wheat)
Multigrain Hot Cereal
Pasta
Rice (white, jasmine, basmati, Arborio, wild)
Potatoes (red, baking, new)


Fibrous Carbs

Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
Broccoli
Asparagus
String Beans
Spinach
Bell Peppers
Brussels Sprouts
Cauliflower
Celery


Other Produce & Fruits

Cucumber
Green or Red Pepper
Onions
Garlic
Tomatoes
Zucchini
Fruit (if acceptable on diet): bananas, apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries
Lemons or Limes


Healthy Fats

Natural Style Peanut Butter
Olive Oil or Safflower Oil
Nuts (peanuts, almonds
Flaxseed Oil


Dairy & Eggs

Low-fat cottage cheese
Eggs
Low or Non-Fat Milk


Beverages

Bottled Water
Diet Soda
Crystal Light


Condiments & Misc.

Fat Free Mayonnaise
Reduced Sodium Soy Sauce
Reduced Sodium Teriyaki Sauce
Balsamic Vinegar
Salsa
Chili powder
Mrs. Dash
Steak Sauce
Sugar Free Maple Syrup
Chili Paste
Mustard
Extracts (vanilla, almond, etc
Low Sodium beef or chicken broth
Plain or reduced sodium tomatoes sauce, puree, paste)
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Old May 3, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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similar list to what i have posted on my fridge
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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Alright, I'm trying to come up with some foods to take to work. Too bad I have school before work 2 days a week and no small cooler...

I got the 5 lb bag of protein at Costco for $27 too. Not bad with cranberry juice. Is there any advantage of mixing it in a shake instead of juice?

I'm trying to really overhaul my diet. It's not bad to start with...Not many unhealthy foods at all... But I just don't think I'm getting enough nutrients/variety.

Who has this problem? When I go to the gym in the morning I'm a little rushed and eat then go to the gym. I do weights and then cardio. If I do treadmill, I can feel my breakfast is not done digesting like I'm about to hurl... Not comfortable!
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Old May 7, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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I'm the same, I can't really eat within 30mins of training or I feel nauseous

The thing with Juice is that its got fructose in it which is a natural form of sugar. This is fine if you're balancing your macros but just keep an eye on the amounts you drink. I take mine with water but then its probably a better powder so it mixes easy and tastes fine as is.

Do you have a fridge at work that you can leave a lunch bag/box in?

FYI I've just begun taking BCAAs post workout so once I have enough time on them to gauge the results I'll post here.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickjames,Apr 27 2006, 11:21 PM
I've found a good book is 'The Abs Diet'--not a diet book or a 'fad' diet as the title implys, but more of a book for people looking for an simple plan that is easy to stick with.

Does a good job of outlining what kinds of foods are ok, good, great, and terrible to eat. Plus it gets into supplements. The book highly recommends Whey protein for anyone working out. However, the book isn't for people trying to bulk up--mostly for people wanting to keep fit. It includes various workouts and schedules to help get started. I dont use the routines at all--I've always had mine, but I really wanted the book because of the food and supplement information.

Btw the author is one of the editors for Men's Health, so it wasn't written by some moron claiming to have all the answers.
I've been getting into this book too. I think it is written very well with good use of humor.

I've been trying out some of the recipies...So far they have mostly been good except for the rice+black beans lunch I had today. :yuck:

I had a helluva time finding flaxseed oil at safeway! But finally found it!

I have noticed firmer muscles in my arms and legs over the last 2 weeks from the combination of Creatine/Costco Whey protien/Better eating. I have an appointment to get my body fat measured at the gym on Saturday so, I'll see where I'm at. The book says your body fat should be between 8-12% to have noticeable abs! That seems low for non-atheletes!
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