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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BearNVa,Dec 5 2008, 07:26 PM
Hmm well let me see... to actually see all people in society in ALL countries come together as one and stop the way the world is heading. Meaning... senseless blacks killing blacks in gang activities, to see all the senseless muggings, rapes, kidnappings, and beatings stopped. No more diseases, no more bigotry, or hate. To be able to go to bed at night and NOT have to lock my doors, windows, and worry about someone coming in to my house. To be able to drive down any street in any place in the world and never find a homeless or hungry person. This is just a start but I could go on and on....
So, you're implying that God should eliminate all the problems in this world before you believe He exists? It would behoove you to read up on the Bible and figure out for yourself why the world is the way that it is. At that point, you can make an educated decision about whether to believe in God or not.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Dec 5 2008, 10:16 PM
It's called faith, BearNVa, and you obviously lack enough knowledge and personal experience to have it.
I've seen close friends shot and killed at point blank range. I've had friends as healthy as you and me go down the drain with brain cancer become bed ridden and die within 3 months. Whether or not I have "FAITH" will not bring these people back nor will it stop it from happening again. Faith is not stopping the hatred that some feel toward homosexuals, blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, or mexicans. So faith serves what purpose?
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by magician,Dec 5 2008, 10:28 PM
Are you answering my question, or responding to QUIKAG?
yours... sorry I can't type that fast and my "P" key keeps sticking and I have to keep correcting it.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG,Dec 5 2008, 10:31 PM
So, you're implying that God should eliminate all the problems in this world before you believe He exists? It would behoove you to read up on the Bible and figure out for yourself why the world is the way that it is. At that point, you can make an educated decision about whether to believe in God or not.
Why should I read the bible when there are so many religious people on the planet that should already know, or at least that what they keep telling the other people that live on the planet with them. I've already made and educated decision after all he/she/it is GOD and he/she/it is everywhere, why does this entity insist on viewing hatred, death, and disease? Is it entertaining?
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BearNVa,Dec 5 2008, 07:26 PM
Hmm well let me see... to actually see all people in society in ALL countries come together as one and stop the way the world is heading. Meaning... senseless blacks killing blacks in gang activities, to see all the senseless muggings, rapes, kidnappings, and beatings stopped. No more diseases, no more bigotry, or hate. To be able to go to bed at night and NOT have to lock my doors, windows, and worry about someone coming in to my house. To be able to drive down any street in any place in the world and never find a homeless or hungry person. This is just a start but I could go on and on....
So, you're saying that if God were to do all that, you'd believe that He exists?

Frankly, I'd be surprised if that were true. I suspect that if God were to cause all that to happen, most athiests would not see that as proof (physical or otherwise) of God's existence.

Would you honestly say, if that were to happen, that the only possible explanation for it was the existence (and, obviously, pointed intervention) of God? If not, I submit that you would find an explanation you found more reasonable and stick with that.

A young man was driving to the job interview of a lifetime: his dream job. Unfortunately, he was running late, and he couldn't find a parking place. As he circled the block, time ticking away, he desperately turned to prayer.

"God, I know that I have never prayed before, have never gone to church, and really don't believe in you. But I need this job, and I need to find a place to park. If you give me a parking place I'll quit drinking and smoking, I'll never swear again, and I'll attend church every Sunday, and Wednesday evenings as well." He was practically in tears.

As he rounds the corner for the twentieth time, a car pulls out of a parking place directly in front of him.

"Never mind, God, I found one!"
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Sorry to have gotten the thread off topic but it always seems to come back to religion when having these types of discussions. It kind of saddens me that people can't be different without being condemned or segregated.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BearNVa,Dec 5 2008, 07:48 PM
Is it entertaining?
Probably not.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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I'm not aethiest....agnostic more than likely.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BearNVa,Dec 5 2008, 09:38 PM
I've seen close friends shot and killed at point blank range. I've had friends as healthy as you and me go down the drain with brain cancer become bed ridden and die within 3 months. Whether or not I have "FAITH" will not bring these people back nor will it stop it from happening again.
Faith will not bring these people back. But maybe that isn't the priority. This life is very short compared to the next life. Maybe God is allowing all of these horrible things to happen to you in an effort to get your attention. At some point you will realize that you are pretty small. As far as physical proof that God exist: to me the world itself is enough proof! This earth was designed. One example: study the golden ratio/mean and you will see that everything was designed, it didn't "just happen". Gays should be allowed to have equal rights. My marriage is a holy vow that does involve my God... whether or not a gay couple gets married does not effect my marriage, so I am not die hard against gay marriage. But in my opinion because this life is so short compared to eternity, your attitude towards the Creator is more important than whether or not a gay couple should be allowed to publicly share a vow.
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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BearNVa,Dec 5 2008, 07:38 PM
I've seen close friends shot and killed at point blank range. I've had friends as healthy as you and me go down the drain with brain cancer become bed ridden and die within 3 months. Whether or not I have "FAITH" will not bring these people back nor will it stop it from happening again. Faith is not stopping the hatred that some feel toward homosexuals, blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, or mexicans. So faith serves what purpose?
$700 billion (to grab a random number out of the air) won't bring them back, either.

Are you going to stop believing in money?
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