Kid suspended 10 days
Come to think of it, I would have done the same thing if I was that kid. I was raised to respect family FIRST, school second, and friends third. If one of my parents was in Iraq I would not give two shits about anything else around me! My priority is to that call and that call only. Like 911 said they would have to pry that phone from my "cold dead kung-fu gripped fingers"'. Furthermore, I think any decent kid (or adult for that matter) would do the same for their loved ones. Remember, that family relationships work both ways. That kid prob. made that mothers whole week in those few short minutes on the phone.
Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,May 9 2005, 02:30 PM
That might be true to an extent as well. In our school district the bathrooms are closed between periods and closed last period. They open 5min after the bell rings for the beginning of the period and close 5min before the period end. Only lunch is really the only "free" time to use the bathroom
Somewhere along the line kids started to abuse the bathroom excuse.
School is a place to learn whether it be academics or social skills. It is not a place to be a hoodlum and dick around. Taxpayers pay good money so kids can go to school for "free" so they can grow up to be productive citizens, not people with utter disregard for rules.
Don't like the rules? Do something to get them changed. Don't be an asswipe and just say "
The kid could have just told the teacher "hey this is my mom and she's in Iraq" instead of being combative. I'd bet the teacher would have just said "ok, just try to make it quick."
Originally Posted by healandtoe,May 9 2005, 02:38 PM
Come to think of it, I would have done the same thing if I was that kid. I was raised to respect family FIRST, school second, and friends third. If one of my parents was in Iraq I would not give two shits about anything else around me! My priority is to that call and that call only. Like 911 said they would have to pry that phone from my "cold dead kung-fu gripped fingers"'. Furthermore, I think any decent kid (or adult for that matter) would do the same for their loved ones. Remember, that family relationships work both ways. That kid prob. made that mothers whole week in those few short minutes on the phone.
wohoo they did the right thing - it only took national news coverage and prob 100's of thousands of emails putting on pressure.
I feel that people (adults) in the work place on a reg basis 'abuse' the following - Cig breaks, bathroom breaks, sewing circles (non work related social interactions), internet, vender machines, and phone calls (personal ones), from the top of my head. As a manager I see it all the time. You are there to work, not have fun. The company you work for pays good money to keep it's self in working order and put a paycheck you're direction. /shesh people need to lighten up. Who the hell is gonna want to work for you? Have fun with high turn around and re-training people all the time. I think it's funny people impose rules they don't follow themselves.
You can't expect these young adults/kids to act mature if we continue to treat them like 10 year olds. Rather then imposing rules that make no sense, teach responsibility and acountability. By time kids hit highschool these are the things they need to be learning. Not how to pinch it off untill lunch. Non of this shit would fly in a work place because it is completely lacking of any logical sense. Run some of these ideas by OSHA.
I feel that people (adults) in the work place on a reg basis 'abuse' the following - Cig breaks, bathroom breaks, sewing circles (non work related social interactions), internet, vender machines, and phone calls (personal ones), from the top of my head. As a manager I see it all the time. You are there to work, not have fun. The company you work for pays good money to keep it's self in working order and put a paycheck you're direction. /shesh people need to lighten up. Who the hell is gonna want to work for you? Have fun with high turn around and re-training people all the time. I think it's funny people impose rules they don't follow themselves.
You can't expect these young adults/kids to act mature if we continue to treat them like 10 year olds. Rather then imposing rules that make no sense, teach responsibility and acountability. By time kids hit highschool these are the things they need to be learning. Not how to pinch it off untill lunch. Non of this shit would fly in a work place because it is completely lacking of any logical sense. Run some of these ideas by OSHA.
What everyone failed to point out is im sure he'll learn a good lesson missing all that schooling. Man whatever happened to keeping people after school extra hours? Now we give them a vacation! Friggin Idiots!
I agree with the kid, having been in similar situations the administration will always takes the idiot...im sorry i mean qualified teachers side, no matter what the reason or situation. As you can tell this always leads to a fair and reasonable resolution
I agree with the kid, having been in similar situations the administration will always takes the idiot...im sorry i mean qualified teachers side, no matter what the reason or situation. As you can tell this always leads to a fair and reasonable resolution
Originally Posted by temin,May 9 2005, 10:08 PM
Uh, the CNN story says so?
Originally Posted by Russian,May 9 2005, 08:18 PM
UH.....No... according to the story the teacher says he began cursing right away whereas the student says he didn't, at least not till after he was taken to the office..
Think the teachers are lying to save face?
Think the kid is lying to save face?
Who's knows who's right. At some point you just have to take things at face value until more concrete information comes out. Come up with conspiracies all you want.
Until something better comes out I'll believe that the kid was being a punk before the teacher was lying.
Originally Posted by Russian,May 10 2005, 12:18 AM
UH.....No... according to the story the teacher says he began cursing right away whereas the student says he didn't, at least not till after he was taken to the office..
Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom."
The incident began Wednesday, when Kevin's mother called him from Iraq while he was at school on a lunch break. School officials said Kevin used profanity after a teacher interrupted the conversation, citing the school's cell-phone ban.
"The suspension was really incidental to the telephone. It was the behavior of the student, using profanity, screaming at the teacher," said John Phillips Jr., superintendent for the Muscogee County School District.
"He became very belligerent and very threatening to her" when she asked him to turn over the phone, Phillips said.
Kevin, a junior, disputed the school's version of the incident. "I was just talking to them and they wouldn't listen to me about talking to my mom," he said last week. "I didn't curse at them."
"The suspension was really incidental to the telephone. It was the behavior of the student, using profanity, screaming at the teacher," said John Phillips Jr., superintendent for the Muscogee County School District.
"He became very belligerent and very threatening to her" when she asked him to turn over the phone, Phillips said.
Kevin, a junior, disputed the school's version of the incident. "I was just talking to them and they wouldn't listen to me about talking to my mom," he said last week. "I didn't curse at them."


