Good for you.

Let me ask you something. Hypothetically, if you were asked to save one of the three I mentioned below by dropping the rest which would you choose? More importantly, which one would you owe it too?

Family
Professors
Friends

These questions directly relate to this kids unconscious thinking process while he was being asked by his parent and by his teacher to do two different things. He delegated his mother as the priority over every thing else in that room. This thinking process is a fundementle part of our society. Honestly, I think no one person can equally respect every one/thing around him. You can get close but in situations such as this one, you can see that family took the priority; you can see that subconsciously, deep down inside of all of us, we all have our priorities. No one is perfect.

Was he breaking the rules, yes, but was the situation handled by the teachers properly? In high school, never.

 

This whole debate makes me thank god I could eat lunch off campus or on when I was in High School. I got to choose whatever I wanted....

 

It doesn't matter if the kid was being a punk or not.

Fact is he was talking to his mother serving in Iraq. The teacher told him to hang up. The kid refused. Then the school punished the kid for breaking the cell phone policy.

In the kid's shoes I would have done the exact same thing and I bet the majority of people would also.

There are exceptions to every rule.

 

If the rule is "There are exceptions to every rule", that means there are exceptions to even that rule.. which means there are some rules with no exceptions... which means the rule "There are exceptions to every rule", might not have an exception.. which means...

**booom**
head exploded

 

You've misunderstood, I'm on your side.

 

There's a difference between love and respect. I will always love my parents more than I will ever love school, but that doesn't mean I hold any less respect for the teachers I've had than my parents.

Certainly I owe it to my parents for providing me with everything I needed for the first 18 years of my life.

I certainly owe it to my teachers all through my schooling. If it weren't for them I'd end up a cranky old Chinese man who's paranoid of white people and US society and discrimination just like my dad. Is he racist? You bet. Same with quite a few of his family. Do I love them all? You bet. Do I respect them? Unfortunately, not as much as I should, but I don't berate them for their views.

Regardless of how much respect I may hold for someone or something I try to not show a total lack of respect. I definitely wouldn't just blow up at a teacher that didn't know what was going on that was trying to enforce school policy(if this actually what happened). Could the teacher have made an exception for this kid? I sure hope so. Is that the way this whole thing went down? Who knows. Until the truth comes out we'll be left wondering if the kid was telling the truth or if the school was telling the truth. In either case it is hard to fault the school for following through on policy as coldhearted as it might have been.

 

Good point.

I however believe that there really is no difference between love and respect. I define them both as the feeling of attachment one has toward another wether or not both see eye to eye on any given subject. I distingwish love and respect only in that they are degrees of the same definition.

The only reason I chose the word respect over love in the entery you cited was because I felt that love is two fluid of a term. It has a different meaning for everyone. I used respect because I felt that it would convey what I was attempting to establish better.

While on the subject of being fluid, this incident is the perfect example of how the school system works today. To quote you it is "coldhearted" and narrow minded as to how to mold a mind and how to prepare it for the real world. None of these rules teach anything important in the manner in which they are enforced. Because of this and because of my poor high school experience I tend to relate more toward the student then the school. Perhapse when im more narrow minded (not that you are Temin), and a parent, I will tent do side with the schools; unless I was that poor freaking mother in Iraq.

What the hell is wrong with us!

 

I can see how people can see love and respect as the same thing.

While this whole situation probably won't teach the kid a darned thing, I think it will open the eyes of others. I see this as something that will show kids that the reality of life is that it can be very harsh regardless of what you think is right or what you think you can get away with doing. I don't think this is a terribly positive way of bringing it about, but I would hope that some of the students would see that life isn't always fair and you have to work within the ruleset as best you can to achieve what you want. If you don't like the rules, don't just break them, try to change them in a constructive manner.

Knowing that his mom is in Iraq and knowing that she could die at any moment, why not go to the principal and say "look, my mom is overseas in a hostile situation and if she calls me on my cell phone during the day it could be the last time I ever talk to her." I'd bet the principal would feel leery of making an exception because it could set an awful precedent for the rest of the student body, but I doubt he'd say no to a student that had the forethought to come to him and ask for this particular exception.

I don't equate coldhearted and narrow minded as being the same. You can have situations where they are remarkably similar, but sometimes being more openminded you end up viewing a situation from so many more perspectives that you can come to a conclusion that the best solution for everyone around is not necessarily the nicest one. Personally, I think the narrow mindedness here is strictly siding with the kid saying "his mom is in Iraq and she may never see him again." Anyone with a shred of love for a parent is going to want to talk to their mom. Why should they care what someone else thinks? This is my mom and I don't give a crap about anyone around me. Even with the best intentions a negative situation can be created. Do people really think the teacher was oppressing the kid by enforcing school policy? The rule is there so cell phone don't become a distraction during the school day. Make one exception and kids will all start clamoring for exceptions. It turns into a political mess. Administrators want to do what best for kids at the end of the day, but sometimes it won't look that way. Most certainly both sides could have handled this better.

 

yes there are exception to rules..

you can kill a person.... for self defense


you can kill a person by setting trap in your business home, after local authority refuses to help you.. and you've been harass by same source of problem over and over...

you can kill a person for any reason you like, as long as you're convicted of killing that same person before and found guilty... ahem. double jeopardy...

 

No offense but do you know what you're talkin about?

If you're convicted of killing someone the first time you'd be in prison. If you were acquitted then jeopardys attached which means you can't be tried for the same crime with the same evidence.