what would you ask jesus
Actually Santa Claus was based on a real person. He's dead too now, just like Jesus.
http://www.santalady.com/history.html
http://www.santalady.com/history.html
Originally Posted by STImachine,Dec 2 2004, 04:36 PM
Actually Santa Claus was based on a real person. He's dead too now, just like Jesus.
http://www.santalady.com/history.html
http://www.santalady.com/history.html
Originally Posted by STImachine,Dec 2 2004, 04:49 PM
He "WAS" an actual human being. Not sure if you caught that part. He's actually a saint in the catholic church, thus the blend of him and Christ's birth.
as a holiday
as a holidayJesus Christ is still Jesus Christ.
I know its splitting hairs, but each is based on a different premise.
Not really, cause the majority of the "history" of Jesus Christ was passed by word of mouth for at least a century before it was written. How distorted was it during the period of time is unknown. Tell you what, tell your friend something over the phone, tell him to tell someone, and have at least 20 people in between before it comes back to you, and see how accurate it is.
Originally Posted by STImachine,Dec 2 2004, 05:15 PM
Not really, cause the majority of the "history" of Jesus Christ was passed by word of mouth for at least a century before it was written. How distorted was it during the period of time is unknown. Tell you what, tell your friend something over the phone, tell him to tell someone, and have at least 20 people in between before it comes back to you, and see how accurate it is.
jeez a lot of "interesting" posts here
regardless of whether you are a Christian or not, there was in "fact" a man named Jesus who was born in Nazarene and who claimed to be God and was crucified on a Roman cross. The historical data "proves" this is so (as long as you believe in historical data aka historical documents). Even secular/liberal scholars will agree to those facts. Now whether you believe he rose from the dead or is God is another matter requiring faith. If you don't believe that a man named Jesus lived, then you'd have to question whether anyone in history existed at or before the time of Jesus (e.g. Plato, Aristotle, etc) as there are many more references to Jesus, even by secular documents (e.g. Romans) than, for example, Plato or Aristotle.
regardless of whether you are a Christian or not, there was in "fact" a man named Jesus who was born in Nazarene and who claimed to be God and was crucified on a Roman cross. The historical data "proves" this is so (as long as you believe in historical data aka historical documents). Even secular/liberal scholars will agree to those facts. Now whether you believe he rose from the dead or is God is another matter requiring faith. If you don't believe that a man named Jesus lived, then you'd have to question whether anyone in history existed at or before the time of Jesus (e.g. Plato, Aristotle, etc) as there are many more references to Jesus, even by secular documents (e.g. Romans) than, for example, Plato or Aristotle.
Originally Posted by gotrice02,Dec 2 2004, 02:49 PM
^^ Definately, can you provide some more credible sources for us. Your past sources from sites such as infowars.com were excellent and extremely credible sources.



This is a no win argument for both sides.