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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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:Picksselfupoffoffloor:

Wow! That alone was worth the price of my membership!!! I have the Pro 6.5's from BA. They sound much better now that I have my 300/2 dedicated to them. Previously, I was running 2 channels of my 300/4 to them and the other 2 bridged to a Stealthbox. The more you give them the better they sounded. That's real-life experience... mine.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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He he......

Im glad you like them. I too indeed like the *bloody* english sound Very warm (phils favorite word ) and crisp.

Glad we can all appriciate the finer things in life....and remember, if you ever doubt your aftermarket car audio, remember, some people have BOSE.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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*shudder* bose.


and yes, i do like 'warm.' but i tell you what, go listen to a set of MB Quarts or Kicker Resolution components -- then listen to some Bostons, Focals, or Eclipse... and you'll know what i mean by warm. the MB Quarts and Kickers will be (imo) annoyingly 'cold' and mechanical. the others will reflect varying degrees of 'warmth.'

and if i could find info on them -- the 'warmest' (and possibly most realistic) home speakers i've ever heard in my life were a set of $5000/pair Harmon Kardon's back about 10 years ago (i think before JBL bought them and Infinity out). they sounded fantastic, but just couldn't quite get modern music to sound right... but for classical, accoustics, vocals, opera, etc. unbelievable.
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Im just busting your balls.........I use the word warm all the time.....sound wise.....

Im actually looking to a new home theater.....I have full Klipsch right now, but want to try something new.....

Thinking of Inifinity (dont even say it phil ) Intermezzo or save a little more and get the PRELUDE.....What do you think???
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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i'll give you something to warm....

should we go elsewhere w/ this thread? we have a tendancy to hijack very effectively when we're not cautious...

naw... you give me too much grief about the Infinity. but i give a little back, i know... i've had several sets of infinities in my cars in the past, as well as recommended them as home theatre setups for friends... but when i demoed for the S - i just felt that the Perfects were too bright for my tastes.... i really like the RS series and they would appear on my short list for any budget components.

now -- Klipsch for home theatre? horn or dome tweeters? if horns - i know why you like the Perfects!

what are you doing w/ the home theatre? any audio or just HT and TV? and budget?

regretfully, i haven't heard any of Infinity's new home lineup. i could probably find them locally and try to demo them to get you a good opinion. historically, they are excellent, but generally tend to be a bit bass shy. so, be prepped to maybe need a bit more sub than you'd expect. oh... just looked at their stuff... i'm probably not going to be able to easily find a set of Prelude w/in an hours drive... $10k? at that price point - tell me about the rest of your system... amps, pre-amps, decoders, interconnects, etc. i suspect you've got to have some really nice gear to exploit the Preludes. the intermezzas look nice, but check out my aside below...

i have some older Boston VR's that i still absolutely adore for music and theatre. (VR40's and a VR12 center, w/ some Boston HD5's for surround...) if you find Bostons -- try them. they sound excellent and the VR tweeter is wonderful in a home application. (i'm still haven't decided on the in car applications.) again, no recent listening experience, but i could probably wedge some time in to sample their latest VR series. (this model most closely matches what i have at home, but my home set has dual 8" woofers and dual 3" midranges w/ the tweeter center mounted vertically.) and there is a matching VRM center... they'll probably ring in closer to your Prelude series.

also -- if you haven't, you must at least listen: Paradigm. i've heard many a set over the years, and really enjoy them... my Bostons are my true love, but unless Paradigm went to crap in the last 5 years, they should at least be competitive. http://www.paradigm.com/

aside:
i really dislike... no, detest and almost hate when high end speaker manuf. put powered subwoofers into their high end home theatre/audio speakers. it completely eliminates the purpose of a full range speaker and cuts your (probably) better amplifier out of the circuit. not to mention, if the speaker is down converting, then reamping the bass signal -- we both know that = noise. if it's using your LFE channel, then you're limited to the bass output of your mains... this is especially true if you're using any sort of tube based amplification systems...
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Hey hey, I have a 3 piece Logitech computer speaker set (2.1? heheh) whiuch would blow your 5k harman kardons in pieces but I will not go on with this subject just not to emberass you.

Hey tnx alot for the water stuff I leanerd some stuff too but probably only %40 percent or so, which is still beter than what I had before. I am one of those guys who still belives there are little pople living in the speakers which plays the instruments and sings

About the JL beeing over priced you are definatly right I mean both of you NFr and Pj, but I am getting the 300/2 and 500/1 at 4 ohms for $720 including shipping handling, brand new. I think this is a good deal, since their retail is probably close to $1300 total.

the other thing isn the only reason I wanted xr650 csi is that I wanted to have an all jl system but reading that audio faq over 10 times by now, I know matching components (sub-amp) are good together but that does not mean that same company also makes the best sounding speakers for them. Anyway before I order any speakers I will be listening to (if I can find them since local circuit city carries mostly rocford and bostonacustics) focals and infinitys. They will be powered by 300/2, that should be enough huh? Since I am not plannig to have any rear speakers for the car I better have a really good set of front speakers huh?


Also eventhoughthe thread is getting hijacked alittle I am still glad that we are talking about all this stuff since its almost impssoble to get this much information in this amount of time from any source. Eventhough if you get it you dont understand the language over here we have Dear Pjk3 with his analogy's next is, what is the differecen between a 3 way speaker system a component or just woofers, a love story written by PJK3

One more thing My name is Andy and I dont know you guys names actually. We have been talking all this stuff and it kinda feels weird to call you guys with your nicknames (it actually takes too long to type yours NFRs2000nyc . Ff2skip you too man, my name is Andy nice to meet you .
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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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i'm Phil, he's Dave.

nice to meet you as well...

what is the differecen between a 3 way speaker system a component or just woofers, a love story written by PJK3


this one is actually pretty easy.
crossovers are used to 'steer' different parts of sound, bass/low, midrange, and highs, to the proper speakers that reproduce them - respectively subs/woofers, midrange, and tweeters, and sometimes blends in between.

if the crossover splits sound into 2 parts, it's a 2-way system. 3 parts creates a 3-way system, and etc.



in your case, as you setup your system -- depending upon how you configure things, you'll probably end up w/ some form of a 3-way system. (deep bass to the sub, some midbass and mids to the woofers, and highs to the tweeters.)


and i think that's a pretty good price for the JL stuff... you can compare it to here: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Ma...ufacturerID=621
and those amps will be stable from 1.5 ohms to 4 ohms. not just 4 ohms.

if i lost you in my wacked out explanation -- hit me w/ the portions where you went, "what the...?" and i'll do what i can.

also -- to listen to different name brands -- check out local stores (try to find ones that have been around for a few years) by calling them and asking what component lines they carry. also, you can check the yellow pages... they generally list their top line brands in ads they take out.

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Old Jan 14, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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Yup im Dave......and we hijacked your thread.......temporarily....

The price you got is great....you will have AMPLE, which is an understatement, for the door speakers if you use a 300/2 for it. Make sure you get some speakers that can eat about 100wrms or more SAFTELY. You have a great system in the making brotha......


Phil......I have the Klipsch Horns baby!!! Highs that break champagne flutes (tried a few times)

Im gonna uprade my interconnects and wiring as well (about 500 bucks for everything, just not sure what to get. I have gold plated monster cable, but thinking of jumping to phoenix gold. Im gonna go look for preludes at some dealers and see what I can come up with. And as far as bass, I have 2 Klipsch 15" woofers that will shake the fillings out of your teeth. I actually want to get the Klipsch Aragon Palladium 1K


And the Aragon Stage One processor.




I dont know anyone who has one, so I will be the first to try it out. Have you ever heard these bad boys??
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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Wow, do they also shoot Intercontinental Ballistic Misiles?
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by NFRs2000NYC
Yup im Dave......and we hijacked your thread.......temporarily....
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