[QUOTE=bigal1,Apr 24 2006, 05:52 PM]low and mid range pull.

 

wondering what to use for a clutch (I will be beta test #9 or 10, I believe)? My rear was Comptech beefed when switched to 4.77's, but it doesn't take a genius to realize the OEM clutch is marginal just for the OEM motor; I have 7K on my '03 and DO feel/hear occasional minor slippage when bangin' gears in the 8K-9K rpm range.

I have never attempted a standing start clutch dump (above VTEC) and will not, until a I install a proven aftermarket disk and PP. Doing a search on this site, I have not found an overwhelming consensus on a single setup........ and it seems that what one person has found to work for them, another has experienced issues with.

 

That is just wrong, however ...

Because the BRP will make so much more torque at low revs ("grunt") traction is going to be an issue, and the stock clutch is apt to have problems after larger rear tires are installed, no matter who is doing the driving. (I naturally assume that anyone who boosts is going to drive the car hard.) I've been looking at clutches and flywheels for reduced rotational mass, and with an eye on both more power and larger tires at some point down the road. Exedy is about to introduce a dual plate setup for the S2000 (PM me if you want a part number), and having driven their dual plate carbon clutches on other cars I'm seriously considering one for my Honda. Obviously I haven't driven an S2000 with one of the clutches, but Exedy tells me that the feel and response will be very similar to the clutches on the CCR Skylines. The things are too expensive, but I like them a LOT! Pedal pressure is fairly high, but engagement is smooth and there is way more clamping power than I'll ever need. If the cost doesn't matter that much you might want to contact Exedy and ask them about the new setup. (I don't think it has been announced publicly yet.)

Their Stage I ceramic single plate is probably more than enough for the BRP regardless of tires, but ceramic clutches can chatter if they're not broken in carefully. Still, if you can break the clutch in properly they'll take a lot of abuse.

 

The ACT PP/ OEM disc / Comptech Flywheel combo from hardtopguy should be more than ample for the BRP kit.

 

To each his own RedMX5. I clearly qualified my statements by saying " It depends on what you are looking for. I am mainly after low and mid range." That is what I would like. I feel that MY car could use some added low and mid range pull. There are some passing situations where I would really welcome the added torque.

Oh, and to answer your question. Yes I can keep up with traffic without hitting VTEC. That doesn't mean that I would pass on more "grunt".

"I don't think more torque is going to help if the one can't already blow away normal traffic without ever hitting VTEC."

I agree with that statement. But I don't think there are any S2ki'ers who fit into that category.

 

I went from an SC at 8psi max to a turbo with 7psi max (but from about 3500 onwards) because I wanted midrange. The difference is chalk and cheese. IMNSHO

 

[QUOTE=bigal1,Apr 25 2006, 01:05 AM]To each his own RedMX5.

 

In a retrospective review in one of our more popular motoring mags the journo complained about (amongst other things) having to work the gearbox to drive the car. I sent in a letter suggesting that if he didn't like to drive maybe he would be better off in a taxi. Got letter of the month.

 

That's funny.

I certainly don't want to knock anyone who wants more grunt or mid range punch (that stuffs fun too), and I certainly don't think people who don't like to shift would (necessarily) be better off in a taxi , but I honestly do wonder why anyone would buy an S2000 if they didn't enjoy digging into the gearbox to find the power band. To me that is a huge part of what makes the car so much fun.

Maybe I'm wrong to think that most owners love downshifting to pass?

 

People knock the engine for not having enough torque. From a numbers point of view they may be right. But they don't look at gearing and redline and how that can be used to optimize the little torque that exists. The astronomical redline makes it possible for us to multiply our torque to a great extent than all other cars.

I don't think this kit is going to make me shift any more or less. It's just going to make me have more fun in each particular gear. Most of my time is spent in 5th or 6th gear, cruising between 35-60 mph. That won't change. What will change is how fast I get up to my operating speeds

Autocrossing will be MUCH more fun now. I'll be able to leave the car in second and not worry about shifting. Or use first and second and perform smoky drifts exiting corners.