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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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your the man!

Sideways, your a hell of a guy! Unfortunately, you type/speak in such a complex manor, us inferior motor heads cannot break down your words. I hate being on the lower end of the food chain
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Shit how did I get roped into this I just blew 5k on a motor and new engine management in the last couple months and now as of recent a blower rebuild, so there's another $500 I have to come up with Monday. My car isn't even finished and I'm helping to pay for someone else's modifications? Its nice everyone wants to play along and chip in, but cam keys are the last thing on my mind right now. I'm broke from my own car dammit and it isn't even working yet, sorry! Bad timing. I need to get my blower back on, tuned and dyno'd before I think about spending money on more mods.
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Shit how did I get roped into this I just blew 5k on a motor and new engine management in the couple months and now as of recent a blower rebuild, so there's another $500 I have to come up with. My car isn't even running and I'm helping to pay for someone else's modifications? its nice everyone wants to play along and chip in, but I'm broke from my own car dammit and it isn't even working yet, sorry! Bad timing.

Haha no problem. This was by no means trying to push people to donate. It is simply for people who do not want to spend over $250 to test it out and find out it actually does not work. At least after this test, they will know for sure that it will work/not work. I guess its a small "insurance" so to say.

RAIN H8R, if you dont mind, please forward me what sideways has said so we can put everything together. I will be posting here exactly how I am planning on installing it before I go off to drift office to find out the truth!

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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by watch0bak
Originally Posted by s2000Junky' timestamp='1324266993' post='21246994
Shit how did I get roped into this I just blew 5k on a motor and new engine management in the couple months and now as of recent a blower rebuild, so there's another $500 I have to come up with. My car isn't even running and I'm helping to pay for someone else's modifications? its nice everyone wants to play along and chip in, but I'm broke from my own car dammit and it isn't even working yet, sorry! Bad timing.

Haha no problem. This was by no means trying to push people to donate. It is simply for people who do not want to spend over $250 to test it out and find out it actually does not work. At least after this test, they will know for sure that it will work/not work. I guess its a small "insurance" so to say.

RAIN H8R, if you dont mind, please forward me what sideways has said so we can put everything together. I will be posting here exactly how I am planning on installing it before I go off to drift office to find out the truth!

- Sung
Alright cool, I hate to be the only guy not donating, but yeah not good timing. Cool several others are. Kudos to them
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:07 PM
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it was nothing major, well maybe it is. I think I installed my cam keys wrong. I have them according to the chicken scratch diagram, and I think he meant other wise, now that I know he refers the first number as intake, and the second as exhaust. Just waiting for him to clear the air up on that with my particular setup.

PS, plenty of lurkers reading in this thread, SEND SOME MONEY for the sake or research!
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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O ya. 1 thing to point out. When I was talking to DO, they were saying that putting in cam timing keys would change ignition timing and that without tuning to adjust the ignition timing, you may not see much difference. So a question for sideways is: was your dyno test done with a tune or without a tune?

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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Well, I asked and was told the ignition timing is totally independent of the cam timing. Does DO have experience with S2000s other than yours?

RAIN H8R, the only way to tell if yours are in correctly is to look. Did you loose torque? That diagram is correct.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideways
Well, I asked and was told the ignition timing is totally independent of the cam timing. Does DO have experience with S2000s other than yours?

RAIN H8R, the only way to tell if yours are in correctly is to look. Did you loose torque? That diagram is correct.
I cannot compare dynos back to back as I did too many other changes. I have already said I installed them as -1 intake, and +2 exhaust. In our PMS you said you recommended +1, -2.

My question for you sideways for my particular car, is when you told me that recommendation, did you use the first number as intake like you said you do, or was that the other way around.

Again, here is your quote from April in our PMs:

"This car likes 3 degrees less overlap and that overlap decrease can be moved around over a range. I am thinking your less efficient exhaust will impact my +2-1 setting. For that reason +1-2 would be my choice."

I am getting irritated with this, I just cannot seem to get an answer on this and I feel I have asked more than 3 times for an answer.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RAIN H8R
Originally Posted by Sideways' timestamp='1324292148' post='21247413
Well, I asked and was told the ignition timing is totally independent of the cam timing. Does DO have experience with S2000s other than yours?RAIN H8R, the only way to tell if yours are in correctly is to look. Did you loose torque? That diagram is correct.
I cannot compare dynos back to back as I did too many other changes. I have already said I installed them as -1 intake, and +2 exhaust. In our PMS you said you recommended +1, -2. My question for you sideways for my particular car, is when you told me that recommendation, did you use the first number as intake like you said you do, or was that the other way around.Again, here is your quote from April in our PMs:"This car likes 3 degrees less overlap and that overlap decrease can be moved around over a range. I am thinking your less efficient exhaust will impact my +2-1 setting. For that reason +1-2 would be my choice."I am getting irritated with this, I just cannot seem to get an answer on this and I feel I have asked more than 3 times for an answer.
Some times this ol sideways is a little slow. It appears like I had a brain fart in that communication and mixed up the +/- and may have given you bad information. I am at a -2+1. My apologies for the bad information. Your -1,+2 should be fine.

Current recommendation is retard the intake one or two degrees and advance the exhaust one or two degrees to make 3 degrees less overlap.
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideways
Well, I asked and was told the ignition timing is totally independent of the cam timing. Does DO have experience with S2000s other than yours?

RAIN H8R, the only way to tell if yours are in correctly is to look. Did you loose torque? That diagram is correct.
They do seem VERY knowledgeable of s2000 platform. In addition, the main tech used to have an s2000 himself for quite some time, the owner is currently building f20 powered AE86 and is on a lookout for another s2000 for himself. I do not have any doubts on their competence on s2000.

- Sung
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