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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AFs2k
Honest question here. Did you open the motor when you got it back from them to see if there was or wasn't scoring of the walls and damage to the pistons? A lot can go wrong in 1170 miles, and I'm not saying your tuner isn't good, but everyone can obviously make mistakes. Maybe one was made there?
the photos inside the engine are before it went back for rebuild, Those pistons were re used.I didn't open the motor up to have a look and it hasn't been opened up yet.The obvious thing something wasn't right was the piston slap which over the running in period didn't get any worse.

Are you suggesting that everybody who has an engine rebuilt should strip it to check it's been built properly?

I was told by Fernando that it was as good as a new built engine and I trusted him.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mr-pitts
Originally Posted by AFs2k' timestamp='1435242267' post='23660166
Honest question here. Did you open the motor when you got it back from them to see if there was or wasn't scoring of the walls and damage to the pistons? A lot can go wrong in 1170 miles, and I'm not saying your tuner isn't good, but everyone can obviously make mistakes. Maybe one was made there?
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Are you suggesting that everybody who has an engine rebuilt should strip it to check it's been built properly?

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I figured you'd try to read something into my post. No I am not suggesting people open up their motors when built by someone else. I'm just asking did YOU open it up to ensure they did in fact reuse the pistons and what not? Until then, you don't really know... Unless I missed something in the thread.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AFs2k
Originally Posted by mr-pitts' timestamp='1435242817' post='23660182
[quote name='AFs2k' timestamp='1435242267' post='23660166']
Honest question here. Did you open the motor when you got it back from them to see if there was or wasn't scoring of the walls and damage to the pistons? A lot can go wrong in 1170 miles, and I'm not saying your tuner isn't good, but everyone can obviously make mistakes. Maybe one was made there?
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Are you suggesting that everybody who has an engine rebuilt should strip it to check it's been built properly?

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I figured you'd try to read something into my post. No I am not suggesting people open up their motors when built by someone else. I'm just asking did YOU open it up to ensure they did in fact reuse the pistons and what not? Until then, you don't really know... Unless I missed something in the thread.
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Kings disclosed they did reuse them, however, not sure when in the time line is those pictures of them above. i think before the first rebuild and not what they looked like after that first rebuild.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by camuman
Originally Posted by AFs2k' timestamp='1435245758' post='23660243
[quote name='mr-pitts' timestamp='1435242817' post='23660182']
[quote name='AFs2k' timestamp='1435242267' post='23660166']
Honest question here. Did you open the motor when you got it back from them to see if there was or wasn't scoring of the walls and damage to the pistons? A lot can go wrong in 1170 miles, and I'm not saying your tuner isn't good, but everyone can obviously make mistakes. Maybe one was made there?
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Are you suggesting that everybody who has an engine rebuilt should strip it to check it's been built properly?

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I figured you'd try to read something into my post. No I am not suggesting people open up their motors when built by someone else. I'm just asking did YOU open it up to ensure they did in fact reuse the pistons and what not? Until then, you don't really know... Unless I missed something in the thread.
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Kings disclosed they did reuse them, however, not sure when in the time line is those pictures of them above. i think before the first rebuild and not what they looked like after that first rebuild.
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The rebuilt engine was on its way to me when Fernando told me he had re used the Pistons.

The first lot of pictures are after the rebuild when I was fitting the engine for what I thought was the last time.

The pictures of the inside of the engine were taken after the sump plug was found to be covered in metal filings,just before it should but didn't go on the dyno.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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Mr-Pitts if you thought that would be your last engine rebuild then you must not have a lot of experience in racing. Anyone that has been in the game long enough knows that things in fact do go wrong. And as other people stated in 1170 miles anything could have happened. You make all these accusations of only baby driving and revving up to only 4k? Let's be real here. Possibility that anything could have happened. Something happened to your first engine we all can read that. And even though you bought a used engine, even after a few years later they still made it right by GIVING you another engine that you were able to put 1170 miles. So to ensure that in fact they did send you a faulty engine maybe you should have gotten the vehicle tuned properly right away instead of driving 1170 miles. As far as your tuner goes and him being a legit tuner I don't doubt that, but just because he tunes 800hp Evos doesn't mean he's exempt from making a mistake from time to time.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by liquidgsr
I love how people who have had work done by them building these 8 second cars are backing them up hardcore, but are missing the point that the engine was sent back to him after a complete build with bad pistons in them. The point is not did they build YOU a 8 second car. The point is they built HIM a engine with shoty parts. I understand people want to back up a shop with praise when they had good luck, but this isn't the case and he is merely telling his story. The only thing I would mention would have been to take pictures and show proof of the engine damage sent to them and the engine damage when received. If he is telling the truth then Kings obviously knows that they screwed up.

Side note, I have there V2 manifold and I am really really regretting it now that I am reading about the cracking issues. I have only put a few dyno pulls on it, but if it cracks like you all are having issues with it, I am selling it all for a Sheepy manifold or the new Fullblown.
Well said point in your first paragraph
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NWDyno
Originally Posted by liquidgsr' timestamp='1435221030' post='23659892
I love how people who have had work done by them building these 8 second cars are backing them up hardcore, but are missing the point that the engine was sent back to him after a complete build with bad pistons in them. The point is not did they build YOU a 8 second car. The point is they built HIM a engine with shoty parts. I understand people want to back up a shop with praise when they had good luck, but this isn't the case and he is merely telling his story. The only thing I would mention would have been to take pictures and show proof of the engine damage sent to them and the engine damage when received. If he is telling the truth then Kings obviously knows that they screwed up.

Side note, I have there V2 manifold and I am really really regretting it now that I am reading about the cracking issues. I have only put a few dyno pulls on it, but if it cracks like you all are having issues with it, I am selling it all for a Sheepy manifold or the new Fullblown.
Well said point in your first paragraph

Exactly! The only question I'll like the to hear the answer to is why would they reuse failed pistons? It was either an honest mistake, or ignorance. hope both parties can reach a consensus on this, because I would have been just as upset as Mr. Pitts
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by looksexyS2000
Mr-Pitts if you thought that would be your last engine rebuild then you must not have a lot of experience in racing. Anyone that has been in the game long enough knows that things in fact do go wrong. And as other people stated in 1170 miles anything could have happened. You make all these accusations of only baby driving and revving up to only 4k? Let's be real here. Possibility that anything could have happened. Something happened to your first engine we all can read that. And even though you bought a used engine, even after a few years later they still made it right by GIVING you another engine that you were able to put 1170 miles. So to ensure that in fact they did send you a faulty engine maybe you should have gotten the vehicle tuned properly right away instead of driving 1170 miles. As far as your tuner goes and him being a legit tuner I don't doubt that, but just because he tunes 800hp Evos doesn't mean he's exempt from making a mistake from time to time.
Your not really getting this are you?

The point I'm making is that because you commissioned them to build you an engine you were expected to pay for the parts.The pressure was off you paid for whatever parts you wanted, they fitted them to the engine, job done....you were presented with a bill.


In my case everything that was done and went into my engine was going to cost them money not me.Hence the reason everything was re used.Im sure if the block hadn't met it's fate that would have been reused aswell.

It's the fact that the is a total lack of regard for how much in Time and money that this is costing and continues to cost me.I can pay for leak down tests and compression tests and take videos of oil coming out of the engine but it won't get me anywhere.

I paid out for a used race engine, I was told it was a $12.000 engine that had only done 1000 miles since being rebuilt.I knew the risks that were involved and as I said I was surprised when Fernando offered to rebuild it.I didn't expect to be paying out for that same engine 3-4 years down the line and still have an unusable car.On top of that I didn't expect to be blamed for everything that has gone wrong with it and being spoken to like a child in the process.

My original intention was to expose the type of company that would believe that this practice is ok.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by looksexyS2000
Mr-Pitts if you thought that would be your last engine rebuild then you must not have a lot of experience in racing. Anyone that has been in the game long enough knows that things in fact do go wrong. And as other people stated in 1170 miles anything could have happened. You make all these accusations of only baby driving and revving up to only 4k? Let's be real here. Possibility that anything could have happened. Something happened to your first engine we all can read that. And even though you bought a used engine, even after a few years later they still made it right by GIVING you another engine that you were able to put 1170 miles. So to ensure that in fact they did send you a faulty engine maybe you should have gotten the vehicle tuned properly right away instead of driving 1170 miles. As far as your tuner goes and him being a legit tuner I don't doubt that, but just because he tunes 800hp Evos doesn't mean he's exempt from making a mistake from time to time.
The car was tuned before I drove the 1170 miles......this was just one more occasion where I needed to throw money at a lost cause 2x 170 mile trips to drop the car at the tuner and collect it, plus i needed to hire a low loader on 2 occasions and I used around $200 in fuel......free money if it's not you spending it.
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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I can't believe this guy is still at it. He sold me a 2500 turbo that turned out to be a paper weight, had blown seals and every exhaust blade was bent or chipped. Supposedly had "a few dyno pulls" on it. Never heard from him.

Hope this gets resolved.
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