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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonster,Nov 25 2009, 09:18 PM
soo what ended up being the total cost of the rebuild
Total cost of the build was around $1000.

used f20 crank= 150
New bearings, acl mains, stock rods=150
machine work=300
used f20 rods= 40
used f22 pistons/rings = 40
gasket kit= 100
used block with hone= 200

At this point the motor has around 200 miles on it, I was going to go for the full break in period without boost, but then I realized that if the pistons were going to give out, why waste the time breaking it in. So I took it out for some boost runs today . I figured I would start it out at low boost, 12 psi and slowly move it up to 18 psi as the miles build on the motor. Today’s runs were all at 12-13 psi.

Car feels real strong, my butt dyno says at least 400+ whp
The car spins the tires in first and second gear easily, with 18 inch reo50's. The tires never spun like that with my previous motor, and it dynoed at 369 whp, at higher boost than im running now. Of course I also upgraded from the stock clutch to a carbonetic single carbon so that may have something to do with the tire spin. In any case the only problem I ran into was that the car was throwing a p1129, which is a map sensor cel. I tried the map whack but no luck, I think its time for a new map sensor.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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cant wait to see this thing.
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Keep up the good work, I love this build.

So, what do you think the CR would be if you machined the pistons down to flat tops, rather than dished pistons?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Artisan7471,Nov 27 2009, 09:00 PM
Total cost of the build was around $1000.

used f20 crank= 150
New bearings, acl mains, stock rods=150
machine work=300
used f20 rods= 40
used f22 pistons/rings = 40
gasket kit= 100
used block with hone= 200

At this point the motor has around 200 miles on it, I was going to go for the full break in period without boost, but then I realized that if the pistons were going to give out, why waste the time breaking it in. So I took it out for some boost runs today . I figured I would start it out at low boost, 12 psi and slowly move it up to 18 psi as the miles build on the motor. Today’s runs were all at 12-13 psi.

Car feels real strong, my butt dyno says at least 400+ whp
The car spins the tires in first and second gear easily, with 18 inch reo50's. The tires never spun like that with my previous motor, and it dynoed at 369 whp, at higher boost than im running now. Of course I also upgraded from the stock clutch to a carbonetic single carbon so that may have something to do with the tire spin. In any case the only problem I ran into was that the car was throwing a p1129, which is a map sensor cel. I tried the map whack but no luck, I think its time for a new map sensor.
I've got a stock map sensor off of mine that only has about 3000 miles on it and is in perfect shape. $30 + shipping and paypal and it's yours if you're interested.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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wouldnt you be having map issues as the stock map only registers 10-12 pounds of boost?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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That's great news, wish I hadn't blown my engine or this is the route I would take. Time to start hording AP2 pistons....seems the market price is going to go up now.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Soul Coughing,Nov 28 2009, 09:42 AM
wouldnt you be having map issues as the stock map only registers 10-12 pounds of boost?
Im using an Emanage ultimate and I have the map sensor voltage clamped to max at 2.9 volts, which is ambient pressure, so the ecu should never see boost. However I think if the ecu sees voltage at idle or cruise is over a certain value it will throw a cel. The maual says it should only see around 1 volt at idle, and mine was reading around 1.5 volts.

Dsddcd I dont have the exact specs, but I think you should be around 10:1 if you machine off the domes. I will double check when I get home.

Ian3000d, if you are going to machine the domes of the piston, it really dosent matter what piston you use. After machining the only difference between the pistons is where the oiling holes. are.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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So what is the exact build on the engine now. Machined dome on F22 piston, stock F22 rods, stock F20 crank?
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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Awesome build!!!
I would much prefer this with a higher mileage engine over just putting a headgasket on.
Great job!
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