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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandMasterKhan,Jul 29 2009, 12:00 PM
JunTuned were you running an aftermarket WP pulley? Like the UR one DesertWander was running?

I was just running the OEM pulley, I dont think it matters what brand pulley you run anyway. The added stress to any of them looks to be overbearing. My OEM pulley was in far worse shape than Darkwings UR pulley just from looking at the pics.

OJR has my pulley, maybe he will post pics.... but I doubt it.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by juntuned,Jul 29 2009, 12:59 PM
I do not expect a bulletproof kit OJR, such a thing does not exist. There will be failures in anything. Improvements are inevitable, but your overly defensive attitude about how kraftwerks can never be wrong is getting annoying.
This is true. Nothing is ever perfect, everything is a constant improvement. How person/company deal with these situations is what's important.

I've met Oscar Jackson Sr he is a very nice guy however being nice and business are two completely different worlds.

I see you're point about it never being KW's fault. It's ok, just admit there's a problem and a solution is being worked on. Nobody is going to fault you, hell I think people will even have more respect towards your honesty.

I deal with this EVERYDAY. If I have an unhappy customer I deal with it. I'll fix it, mod it, change it, add to it. I have even offered to refund them their money (never has happened). Every customer has always left happy. I'm in business to improve my product and I can't do that without my customers input and support.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Am I correct in assuming one of the variables unique to the KW kit is the fact that the water pump pulley must be removed then reinstalled after mounting the KW pulley bracket.I'm not sure but is there any other system turbo or supercharger where you are even touching the WP pulley? The reason I ask is the manual specifies 10 lbft. of torque.That is not very much and if you don't use a torque wrench it might be easy to over torque the bolts. Just wondering if it might be an installation issue. That's why some fail and others don't.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by archtop,Jul 29 2009, 01:46 PM
Am I correct in assuming one of the variables unique to the KW kit is the fact that the water pump pulley must be removed then reinstalled after mounting the KW pulley bracket.I'm not sure but is there any other system turbo or supercharger where you are even touching the WP pulley? The reason I ask is the manual specifies 10 lbft. of torque.That is not very much and if you don't use a torque wrench it might be easy to over torque the bolts. Just wondering if it might be an installation issue. That's why some fail and others don't.
That's a very good point.

I have yet to see anyone use a torque wrench. They think they are "pro" and can feel it. Over tightening these bolts can definitely cause problems.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Over tightening these bolts is not going to cause the pulley to crack where it is cracking.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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The Civic water pump pulleys that would crack are built the same way a S2k's pulley is. They also use identical bolts that the S2k uses.

Replacing the bolts and torquing to the same 10ft/lbs is REQUIRED in the TSB covering the repair or the same cracking can occur (on a Civic)
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Get Modifry's ECT driver. If your car starts to overheat next time, at least you'll know before it's too late.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by archtop,Jul 29 2009, 01:46 PM
Am I correct in assuming one of the variables unique to the KW kit is the fact that the water pump pulley must be removed then reinstalled after mounting the KW pulley bracket.I'm not sure but is there any other system turbo or supercharger where you are even touching the WP pulley? The reason I ask is the manual specifies 10 lbft. of torque.That is not very much and if you don't use a torque wrench it might be easy to over torque the bolts. Just wondering if it might be an installation issue. That's why some fail and others don't.
We never pulled the water pump pulley on jacks. So that wouldnt make any sense to me. There is no reason at all to pull the water pump pulley off to install the kit. It doesnt interfere with anything during the install.
Im in high hopes that OJR and jack can make peace on this matter. While i dont expect them to hand out money, i would say they should speak with jack and maybe help him out in some way. Buy him a headgasket or something. That is IF they agree that the kit is the reason the pulley failed.
Jacks drive is the same as it was out of the box, no experimental stuff. His pulley is a 95mm, but that wouldnt cause the WP pulley to blow apart. If anything the blower would be the one getting tested, and jacks not asking for a new blower.
I just hope this doesnt happen to anyone else, this is a big expense that should never have occured. Its basically a race car, and theres not much warranty on such an item, but in this case, i think theyd sell twice as many kits if it was made known that they stepped up bigtime for someone who waves their flag so happily. Others see that, they will be more than willing to drop coins for that companys product, IE more flagwavers.
Thats my .02c
Talk soon. dave
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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How did you get to the bottom 3rd bolt on the upper idler bracket the one behind the wp pulley? Did you use an extension and swivel socket, and then align the holes? If that works I feel dumb because I recently had to fuxor with mine
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by S2oooNvegas,Jul 30 2009, 02:52 AM
We never pulled the water pump pulley on jacks. So that wouldnt make any sense to me. There is no reason at all to pull the water pump pulley off to install the kit. It doesnt interfere with anything during the install.
Im in high hopes that OJR and jack can make peace on this matter. While i dont expect them to hand out money, i would say they should speak with jack and maybe help him out in some way. Buy him a headgasket or something. That is IF they agree that the kit is the reason the pulley failed.
Jacks drive is the same as it was out of the box, no experimental stuff. His pulley is a 95mm, but that wouldnt cause the WP pulley to blow apart. If anything the blower would be the one getting tested, and jacks not asking for a new blower.
I just hope this doesnt happen to anyone else, this is a big expense that should never have occured. Its basically a race car, and theres not much warranty on such an item, but in this case, i think theyd sell twice as many kits if it was made known that they stepped up bigtime for someone who waves their flag so happily. Others see that, they will be more than willing to drop coins for that companys product, IE more flagwavers.
Thats my .02c
Talk soon. dave
Huh, I did the new pulley upgrade and it involved removing and sending back the KW idler pulley and bracket to have the new idler pulley installed.I used the install instructions and it specifically called for removing the WP pulley to get to the lower bracket bolt. I called my original installer of the kit to get the proper torque specs for the WP pulley bolts.I have a Digital ftlb's torque wrench and the lowest it would go is 10lbft.I couldn't believe how little pressure that took.I can't imagine getting that bracket off without removing the WP pulley.
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