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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 05:15 AM
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Sorry to hear man. I read through a few posts on your local forum. Good on Illest for coming in and offering his experienced opinion; not like it helped much... the "tuner" guy sounds like a d-bag. I guess he is just afraid to state that he did anything wrong because if he did you might use that to try to come at him for damages or something, which it sounds like you're kinda over that already. Hope everything goes well on the rebuild. Take it to one of the guys mentioned in this thread and I'm sure you won't be disappointed. G/L.

Threads like this make me nervous cause I'm getting tuned in a few days!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by indi00
Don't know your wastegate / boost controller setup. If there is no boost pressure to the wastegate to keep it close (broken line), you are running wastegate spring pressure? You can't boost higher than your spring pressure except for boost creep?
If the bottom port is disconnected the gate will have no reference and close. Closed gate = overboost
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by spectacle
First thing, sorry for your loss. Regardless of fault, you're out of a motor and that sucks.

From where I sit this is a wash...you and the tuner have equal blame for this. Its his fault for not setting a boost cut, but your fault for the vacuum line melting. I would take whatever assistance he's offering and do what you can to get back up and running. All the talk about too much timing and and aggressive map is beside the point. Like he said in that thread, if the line had not have melted (or if he would have set a cut like he was supposed to), you'd probably be on the road smiling right now. No use and getting upset and trying to place blame at this point...what's done is done. For the record - my personal opinion is he is being more than generous. You pay a tuner to tune, not fix vacuum lines. Its your responsibility to make sure the car is mechanically sound when it arrives for the tune, not his. A good tuner will look over everything before hand to make sure there's nothing glaring that will cause something like this, but again its not his responsibility.
I agree. He offered to rebuild me a motor for free. I wouldn't trust this motor. He has no experience building these engines and I have no idea what engine building experience he even has. I wouldNT be able to sell the motor knowing I have no idea how it was built. I was ready to move on until he called my car poor and halfassed.

The vacuum line is my fault.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Sorry for your loss as well, if you aren't seeking damages, let it go and move on. Arguing back and forth isn't worth it.


Where is the boost cut on the AEM v2 set @?
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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There was no boost cut set. I did move on until the dude called my car poorly built and halfassed.

Now its my fault because I used a 4 bar map sensor

Its also my fault because S2000's weren't turbo from the factory
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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I would cut my losses now and just get the car to either Jeff Evans or one of the other top S2000 builders recommended on the forum. Have it rebuilt and tuned properly and then you will have a smile ear to ear.

The tuner is everything! I was lucky to get an appointment with Tony Palo at T1 before they stopped working on all cars non GTR. My tune was yesterday and Tony started over from scratch and now my car runs like a completely different beast!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Agreed :tup: glad to hear of your positive experiences

If I stay with an f20 I will give Evans a call for sure
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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Hope everything works out for you!
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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If he offered to build your motor for free to me that's a sign of guilt. He also keeps taking punches at well known map sensors and a s2000 that has been proven many times over to be at the top of its game when it comes to one of the best built motors in history. Sounds to me that he is trying to do and find anything he can to place the blame elsewhere.
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Damn that sucks. Im right next to Buffalo, NY (Rochester). Im going to go with synapseturbo in albany for a tune in the future. We have Street Tuned Motorsports here in rochester, but it seem like they only tune Mitsubishi's. They are good at what they do, but I havent heard any honda's tuned there, so i stay away. I went to innovative before, they suck!!
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