this is a great prospect if this ever spans the country... whats the licensing requirement going to be? do you need to be a licensed instructor or certified at a certain level by a sanctioning organization? or can anyone run the time trials?

only thing id suggest is to have the Spec be "NO wing allowed" (outside of OEM spoilers)...

 

One more thing, you guys want to assess points for mods...but nowhere does it say what the maximum limit on points is before your car isn't "spec" any longer.

 

JP, I see your point.

The problem seems that so people would have to de-mod their cars to do this. I think the mods that are painful to reverse should be free. However since gears/LSD offer a significant advantage over stock, modifications to stock will be illegal.

FREE
Flywheel, SS brakelines, hondata gasket.

Intake and exhaust should be free. You don't have to have these, but if you do it is not going to be penalized. And minimum weight can be agreed upon.

The ECU should then be OEM and matching the engine code to simplify things.

OEM body parts-fenders, bumpers, hood etc No aero front splitter, rear diffuser or wing-
EXCEPTION:OEM AP1 rear is a FREE since it does little.

ENGINE must be completely stock including TB.
Cooling mods ok -thermostat, rad cap, fanswitch. Must use OEM radiator.

Only weight removal allowed are tools/jack/spare tire/passenger seat.
Dry cell battery allowed to replace OEM.

Front upper a-arm changes allowed.
Any HT/softtop delete is allowed if you have a rollbar.

So only changes required:
Shocks +Bsk (if AP1)
OEM wheels +Spec tires
Race Pads
Rollbar
Harness/Seat

Allowed mods:
Intake
Exhaust
Dry cell battery
Thermostat
Rad Cap
Fanswitch
HT (with rolbar)
SS brakelines
Hondata Gasket
Flywheel

 

I don't even think it is a good idea. Obviously opinions vary on this point, but it you want to have a series where many people will keep their cars street legal and multi-use I don't see how you can mandate or even strongly encourage roll bars. There are too many compromises involved in terms of street safety. But that's just my own opinion.

 

Well either you spec a weight and let people get there however they like or you spec what can be done to the car and not worry about the weight. As you recognize, there is no need for both.

 

[QUOTE=drewchie,Jun 11 2006, 01:33 PM] No other modification of any kind will be allowed with the exception of those listed below, Anything not listed isn

 

Why "damping and camber" and not spring rates?

Spec series vary on what they specify. I know of several very successful spec series that allow any change to suspension make or specification but not type or chassis mounting point (ie. can't convert from strut or leaf spring to a-arm/coilover but if the car is already coilover you can use any coilover you like).

 

JP just likes to stir the pot and harken back to the days when he had a "real" track car.


(besides.. by being the loudest voice in these threads, he can almost pretend he still has an S2k. )


as for Mike... he just likes to stir up something else.

 

I find myself interested in this because I am probably going to turn my mostly stock car into something very much like this in the near future. But as long as SV is a SoCal outfit, it's not likely that I'll be running with them very often anyway. I never have done so to date.

 

Mike, I've given examples to show successful series' that adhere to a definition of "spec" as being used by me. What series are called spec-whatever that allow what you're proposing?