It's entirely possible to get this going in the NW as well. There's a few of you up there who like to track your S2ks, Mike, why not rally your troops together?

If locals have a group together and track connections, SpeedVentures doesn't have to be involved. (They jusy help make it affordable for a small group to get track time)

I'd love to see semi-independant regional groups get started. We could all come together once a year for a "national run-off".

 

Most of the production-based ICSCC classes up here run with the wording I described. For various reasons they are more popular than the SCCA classes among PNW racers. http://www.icscc.com/

(One reason they are more popular up here is because ICSCC covers British Columbian events too, while as I understand it SCCA does not.)

The class I am most familiar with is Pro-3, basically a spec BMW E30 325is series. They are growing like crazy. Must be doing something right.

 

I did go look up the Spec Miata rules and I see what JP is talking about. They do specify the suspension parts down to the part number.

However, what's good for a Miata w2w race class may not be good for a much smaller S2000 time trial class. Or it might be. In the end all you can do is publish your rules and see how many people decide they want to build a car and compete by them. Natural selection.

 

Minor nit:
If BSK is permitted, it should be permitted for AP1 and AP2. If we claim that it does nothing for an AP2, then clearly it should be allowed since it's not a performance aid. If OTOH it would improve the AP2, then by definition it's just bringing the AP2 to the same level as an AP1 w/ BSK, so again it should clearly be allowed.

 

I don't think the same kit actually fits on an AP2, does it? But there is no reason the particular GFL/TCD kit has to be the one used. There is at least one other similar kit on the market.

 

The problem with that idea John, is that there may be a deleterious effect from mounting a component designed to solve a specific geometry issue on a suspension that was redesigned to address the same issue from the factory.

 

spec miata use non-adj shocks.

something similar would work fine. 16x6.5 & 16x7.5" rims, RA1, spec spring rate, cheap replacable shock, stock sways, open exhaust, stock intake, etc

swap ecu's to prevent cheating

 

I'm not too keen on thei dea of limiting ap2s to 16in wheels yet. We already know what an ap1 with kws and 16in ra1s can do but the ap2 with 16in wheels is uncharted territory. I don't think there is anyone with an ap2 who has put ap1 wheels on yet. So no one knows how the car would react or how it handles on that specific setup.
That is all,
Karim

 

Tire diameters are the same, and we need to standardize wheels and tires for AP1 and AP2; no alternative.

 

Frankly, if you are going to spec a particular suspension, I don't see any reason why it can't be the OEM suspension. That would be cheapest. And it's silly to say that it's not "safe" with R-compounds.

I have a feeling that the impression of it not being safe was related to the bumpsteer issue rather than the damping and spring rates.