ap1 vs sti
Originally Posted by hahasti,Sep 20 2009, 08:43 PM
i had an 07 sti b4 my 05 s2000 and there is no way my s2000 is faster than my sti.my sti- cai, catless dp, exhaust, fp, ap v2, protuned (310awhp, 348awhp on dynojet)
my s2k- j's header, j's 70rr (241rwhp, 172wrtq on dynopack)
even with my j's intake and tuned added now still NO chance at my stg 2 sti.
Originally Posted by MasterForce,Sep 20 2009, 08:00 PM
STI had 20g turbo, intake, exhaust, wastegate and conservative tune.
Originally Posted by fusionchickenleg,Sep 21 2009, 02:44 AM
an s2000 in n/a form is playing a very hard uphill battle against the Evo/STi/other factory turbocharged cars with an engine/turbo combo worth crap
but once the FC2x is force inducted then it comes who has a deeper pocket
but once the FC2x is force inducted then it comes who has a deeper pocket

ya the Evo def. "dies down" relatively speaking after the shift into 5th gear. the aero is too crappy, and the gear is too long, and the HP isn't enough to propel the car quick enough at that kinda speed. same goes for the STi, its 5th and 6th gears are too long, even after the 07's gearing revision.
my 05 STi engine with turbo back and tune still had trouble up top. the midrange was great, but as with all STi's, the stock turbo just doesn't flow enough air up top. you could hit a peak of 300whp but the HP up top isn't as strong as the Evo's, but neither is the Evo's midrange as awesome as the STi's, when both cars at at the initial bolt-on point. pick your poison.
don't get me wrong, the Evo/STis can be amde to be batshit fast all the way up to 150mph or what have you, but compared to its acceleration under 100mph, with the crazy short gearings for the lower gears, it is much slower, unless they're making so much power (mebbe a motor revving to 9k with a huge turbo boostin' 35+psi) where longer gear ratios would be benefitial
with my bolt-on IX, my 05 bolt-on Sti, and now my X, i always start losing after 100mph against a car that's similar in acceleration under 100mph (from a roll) (tuned 335is, e92 m3, 997 carrera s, etc)
my 05 STi engine with turbo back and tune still had trouble up top. the midrange was great, but as with all STi's, the stock turbo just doesn't flow enough air up top. you could hit a peak of 300whp but the HP up top isn't as strong as the Evo's, but neither is the Evo's midrange as awesome as the STi's, when both cars at at the initial bolt-on point. pick your poison.
don't get me wrong, the Evo/STis can be amde to be batshit fast all the way up to 150mph or what have you, but compared to its acceleration under 100mph, with the crazy short gearings for the lower gears, it is much slower, unless they're making so much power (mebbe a motor revving to 9k with a huge turbo boostin' 35+psi) where longer gear ratios would be benefitial
with my bolt-on IX, my 05 bolt-on Sti, and now my X, i always start losing after 100mph against a car that's similar in acceleration under 100mph (from a roll) (tuned 335is, e92 m3, 997 carrera s, etc)
Originally Posted by hahasti,Sep 20 2009, 08:43 PM
i had an 07 sti b4 my 05 s2000 and there is no way my s2000 is faster than my sti.my sti- cai, catless dp, exhaust, fp, ap v2, protuned (310awhp, 348awhp on dynojet)
my s2k- j's header, j's 70rr (241rwhp, 172wrtq on dynopack)
even with my j's intake and tuned added now still NO chance at my stg 2 sti.
Of course a modded turbo car will outrun an n/a 2.0 ?
but he stated that he KNOWS his s2000 can't "keep up" with his Stock STi.
NOT TRUE unless you Run from a dig.
it sucks because you get threads like this with people telling you your stock(ish) s2k can beat up on an STI, so then you go around thinking that, and when you finally come up to one, your confident, and then get bent over backwards from a stock STI, then you sit there thinking somethings wrong with your car the rest of the way home.
Originally Posted by liquid_helix136,Sep 21 2009, 11:12 PM
it sucks because you get threads like this with people telling you your stock(ish) s2k can beat up on an STI, so then you go around thinking that, and when you finally come up to one, your confident, and then get bent over backwards from a stock STI, then you sit there thinking somethings wrong with your car the rest of the way home.
Originally Posted by franky65,Sep 21 2009, 07:10 PM
Dude how much did all the mods cost you, i read in your signature thing i'm just kinda losing track adding all the figures.
btw, does anyone know how the gearing is in an 06 WRX, non-sti, the 5speed? I raced my friend (before gears) he had accessport and an intake, i had him on the jump, but he crawled up on me after each gear, but as soon as i hit 5th, he flew past me.. it was crazy, 5th gear on stock gearing AP1, im not sure what mph that is, i wanna say around 110?



