During a real inspection they would have at least told you your oil was low. And yellow.

 

Hopefully the dealer you bought it at can at worst case split the cost of the repairs 50/50 but ideally it would be nice if they performed all the repairs by themselves. This case is a complicated one because you bought the "car as" is. From my knowledge of "as is", they sell you the car as you see it and it is up to you to determine whether it is safe for you to purchase the vehicle or not depending on your inspection prior to the purchase of the vehicle. However, the only thing is you've only had the vehicle for 3 days and a vehicle failing that soon must definately mean that there was a problem with that vehicle hence why the dealer sold it "as is". My guess is that this car had problems while still sitting in the parking lot at the dealer. It's a 2007, and dealerships have plenty mechanics to safety/certify vehicles depending on whether it was worth while for them or not. My advice to you is when you talk to the people taking care of the matter at the dealership try to be as polite as you can possible be as a person but at the same time be firm as to what you want them to do for you which in your situation is "fix" the problem in its own entirety. Good Luck

 

Did you ever agree to pay for them to take your engine apart? If not, that may be a good sign.

 

Nope, never agreed. They offered to do it for free but I declined for now.

 

What are the laws regarding this situation in the Peoples Republic of California? These vary by state, and a pinko state like California probably has better consumer protection than most.

Quit wasting bandwidth on the Internet and find out what your rights are!

 

Honda made these particular engines the way toyota made their 2JZ engines - bulletproof. I mean these engines will take a hell of an abuse before they will come to be anywhere near out of spec. You got a bad one. Heck, even KIAs have a bad engine in them once in a while

The dealer and/or Honda are fixing this. You should not be stuck with it. Fight it, fight it tooth and claw!

If the first lawyer turns you down, don't worry! Go to the next one. and the next one. One of them will take the case, and win it!

My dad was in a nasty wreck, they told him it was his fault (he was unconscious and didn't remember a thing). Well, only 4th lawyer was willing to take the case. and he won, and all the surgeries (including one on the spine) were paid by ins.

So just keep looking for a lawyer willing to take the case. I'm sure you'll eventually come across one who's had this particular case, and will know how to win it.

 

Kang,

I have read most of your replies in this thread and here is my response:

1) Even if the car was purchased "as is", the "as is" condition would not apply to you. Your State Lemon Law dictates that even if you have signed the paper work and contracts to agree to purchase the car "as is", the "as is" waiver would not be hold in court due to the following conditions.

- You only had posession of the car for 3 days or 100 miles.

- The car should still be in its factory warranty period. If the warranty was voided, the dealer must inform you about it during the trasnaction. This is especially true since you purchased the car from a Honda/Acura dealer.

- The car does not have salvage title, and the "as is" clause in the sales contract would not hold in court.

- An "as is" clause appearing on a sales contract for 2007 vehicle is extremely suspicious. The only reason for the dealer to put in the "as is" clause is that the car's warranty was voided. If you were not informed about the voided warranty, the "as is" condition does not apply to you.

The "as is" exemption would not hold due to the Lemon Law. The Lemon Law is to prevent sellers from KNOWINGLY selling defective vehicles to consumers and attempt to get away with it using the "as is" clause in the sales contract. And because you purchased this vehicle from a Honda/Acura Dealer, there is no way the dealer could get away from this "as is" clause if you were to take the dealer to court.

Let the dealer know that you are protected by the law. Let the dealer know that sales laws ALWAYS protect the consumers. Print a copy of the Lemon Laws to show to your dealer.

2) An over-revved motor will rarely seize. I have seen stock AP1 engines taken to 10,000rpm on downshifts in Japanese videos. The car still ran fine in other videos as well. But of course, your car is not an AP1, and the Japanese F20C may be somewhat different. But an over-revved engine should not simply seize.

Your problem sounds like a bottom-end issue, and as you have pointed out, it could have been caused by oil overfilling. But then, without seeing your engine, I CANNOT diagnose what your problem is. I can only guess from your posts.

3) Ask an S2000 or engine expert from S2ki to talk to the dealer with you. Come on guys, help a poor fellow out! This guy works at a bank and I fully understand what kind of stress Kang goes through!!!

Some people on here obviously know a thing or two about laws. Hopefully you can find an S2K expert that happens to know a bit of laws to go talk to the dealer with you.

There are ALOT of S2000 owners in Orange County on S2Ki. Please, go to the dealer with this guy! I would definitely go to the dealer with Kang to talk to those bastards if I were in California!!!

4) If you have a good driving record in the previous years, print your driving and insurance record to show to the dealer that you are a safe driver, and that over-revving is clearly out of the equation.

Let us know! Good luck dude.

 

For someone who isn't in California, you certainly know a lot about their state-specific Lemon Law, etc.

 

I am glad that i did not end up buying my S in south coast acura ....

their reputation is really bad, have seen a couple of these stories before about them as well ...

dont let them further take apart of your car, because they dont really know what they are doing ... you should have called honda america by now to complain them.

 

yeah the stories on Yelp are not very good