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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 5 2007, 05:32 AM
heck, I would do. But you and me are in an EVEN smaller minority. A 50-60k version of an S2000 8 years into production just wouldn't be a viable business proposition. Both you and I know that. Given the budget constraints, and the mission of the car, the CR turned out the best it could have.
Why not? It worked for GM and Buick with the GNX. The last model year of the GN, Buick wanted to do something special. They got ASC Mclaren involved and bam....GNX. Why couldn't Honda do that with Mugen? They did with the Civic Si, why not the S2000? People would be lining up out the doors right now if there was a Mugen edition S2000. How many people put deposits down on a CR so far?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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I totally agree. A Mugenized S2000 from the factory would be sweet. Given the volume, the price of the Mugen parts would be reduced. It will be very difficult to sell 2000 of these when YTD sales of the S2000 so far in the US is below 1500 I believe.

Rediculous, the project mgr of the CR should be fired or re-hired and fired!
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jacqueshammer,Apr 5 2007, 10:07 AM
i've been thinking a lot about the CR, and here are my final thoughts:

honda more or less (mostly less) executed what they were trying to achieve, quicker lap times, improved suspension, downforce etc. in that regard, i commend them. i've decided what really disappoints me is the execution of it all. apexi blue, first of all, is not an appealing color. the wing and lip, while functional, are very unappealing, and dont fit the flow of the car. the interior was taken in the right direction, but i feel that they stopped well short of their capabilities, and overall, left it unfinished, and rather ugly IMO.

that being said, since this is only a concept version, perhaps many of the downsides will be fixed, especially the ride height. Honda has several months to finalize their product before production, and lets hope that they do it right.
Yep, that's pretty much it for me, as well.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Red2K,Apr 4 2007, 11:17 PM
Let's wait and see how it does on the track. The current stock S2K is a very nice blend of form and function. The S2K CR is intended to emphasize the functional (track) aspect of the car. The enhanced aerodynamic body parts certainly look different and seem to be turning people off. The beefed up and tuned suspension and more grippy tires may be the most effective change. But Hondas stated intent was to produce a version of the S2K for the weekend trackster, not the street; and they may well have done that very well.


The CR was built for the Track, and those of us who enjoy the Curves.

Only time will tell if the CR is a hit on the Track.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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thats fine if its a track car but does that mean they had to make it ugly... does that mean they had to exclude any kind of motor work wether that be FI or just some slight tuning?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Heh, they had a price target and colors THAT ugly cost extra...
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 5 2007, 08:08 AM
Where do you propose in your infinite wisdom, that Honda find something more powerful than the F20C, yet as compact, whilst preserving the raw character of the car, and not having to any extensive reengineering.
They did exactly that. Back in 2004. It's called the F22c.

Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludedude,Apr 5 2007, 09:52 AM
Lots and lots of places.

A few examples:

1997-2002 Honda powered Indy cars ran a turbo V8.

The all-conquering Marlboro McLaren Honda (remember a guy named Alain Prost? Ayrton Senna?) powered F1 cars of the late 80's ran 1.5l turbos.

I could go on, but there's no point

Your move.
And where has that heritage ever translated into a production V8 Honda?
Better yet how about a Turbo Honda sports car?
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dezoris,Apr 5 2007, 01:55 PM
And where has that heritage ever translated into a production V8 Honda?
Better yet how about a Turbo Honda sports car?
That's the point I was failing to make.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by type-j,Apr 5 2007, 07:35 PM
Wouldn't lowering it ruing the main purpose of the CR?
If we lower it , change the wing , put better seats , etc... Then whats the purpose of cr ?



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