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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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THAT my friend is PRECISELY it...........The CR is POINTLESS!


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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Station,Apr 5 2007, 11:42 AM
They did exactly that. Back in 2004. It's called the F22c.

Torque beeches haha
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by s2ka,Apr 5 2007, 12:51 PM
Nice p-shop.


Honda should go ahead and keep both the hard top & the tonneau cover black, and not have the tonneau cover body colored.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vishnus11,Apr 5 2007, 11:08 AM
DO you REALLY want to be that stupid and make this comparison...
Hi vishnus11, who are you again?

1. The Z4 in stock form is not as sharp handling or as raw as the S2000. There was room for improvement. This is not so in the case of the S2000.
A. The S2000's handling could use improvement. Its excellent but not perfect.

2. The Z4M costs approximately $12000 more than the Z4. It was conceived to be sold in world markets in larg(er) quanitities, unlike the CR which is just a limited run of 2000 vehicles for the US market only.
A. So that means what?... Honda has to be cheap?

3. BMW was able to upgrade the output of the Z4 so easily because they used an EXISTING engine in a car designed to ACCEPT a V6. Where do you propose in your infinite wisdom, that Honda find something more powerful than the F20C, yet as compact, whilst preserving the raw character of the car, and not having to any extensive reengineering.
A. My infinite wisdom says Honda just created a turbo for use on the RDX. My infinate wisdon also says "Honda NA, use the thing."

4. Inspite of all BMW's efforts the Z4M still weighs a fair amount, and is NO WHERE NEAR AS FOCUSED as the CR. It comes with navigation for christ's sake.
A. THE "CR" comes with cruise control.... very useful on the track...

A completely, utterly useless comparison. Congratulations on filling this thread with garbage.
A. Its called "Infinite Wisdom"


Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulder ATO,Apr 5 2007, 03:59 PM
My infinate wisdon also says "Honda NA, use the thing."
infinate wisdon FTL
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Haha.. thats what I get for switching the page back and forth while at work !
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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I weap for the future..
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Detroit,Apr 5 2007, 10:12 AM


So by your math didn't this car just "gain" 9 HP?


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That isn't good math. Losing weight doesn't gain hp. It improves power:weight ratio.
Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Keep in mind this isn't intended as a track-only race machine, despite the verbage of the press release. This is a more aggressively tuned trim option for the base car. It's an inexpensive (for Honda) way for AHM to give purchasers of new S2000s the option for a more aggressive car. It's not a factory effort at an SCCA T2 car.

I wonder what S2000 history would be like if Honda had offered a CR-type trim line from the very start of production? How many people would be driving it vs the base model?

(For what it's worth, I still find it ugly, and no reason to trade in my AP1. But I like the direction AHM is thinking in. )

Also, I rather like what Lamborghini does for a CR type car. Of course, they're not too worried about keeping costs down.




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