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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Aug 14 2007, 02:48 PM
Its kind of sad really, on one hand I hate to see the s2000 go, it would be fun to see it continue to progress like some of the other makes out there that have had the same model for 20-30 years or more, but then again maybe its good its being discontinued now. It was meant to be a special edition car from the get go with only being in production for a year or couple years. It's maybe taken a way from that some now with 8 years of production, which is probably a good reason why they felt they needed to come out with the CR, but I think the s2000 will be worth more money and hold its value better now that it has been well established but not overly so, it's proved itself rather then something more abscure for only being on the market for a year. There will be enough of them for people to know what they are and seeking them out later but not so many that they are like miatas and not seen as anything special. Like the last Supra I don't see our cars in there worst state dropping below $10,000-$12,000 ever unless they are complete POS, and after a wile will go up in value the more time goes by. Just my thought...
Too late, you can get AP1's for real cheap now and I'm sure they will depreciate more. I have a feeling the s2k will go until 2010.

"Every year is the last year since 1999" Its the same thing everywhere.
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Too Late? Maybe we have difforent ideas of what cheep is. I don't think $15,000-19,000 is cheep for a used AP1.These cars have already proven to hold their value over the majority of cars of the same years and list price new and for the performance you are getting. They will resemble the last tt Supras. Mid nineties car for 15-20 grand if your lucky and can find one. S2000 of any year will ever dip below $12,000 at their lowest point in time for a descent runner and I predict will eventualy go up in value as good ones become more scarce, regardless of what year they stop, will just take longer but is the enevatable. I didn't buy this car for a good investment really but it's good to see that these are holding their value much better then i expected and its an enthusuast car tried and true, therefor will be valuable as such in the futer.
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky,Aug 19 2007, 02:03 PM
Too Late? Maybe we have difforent ideas of what cheep is. I don't think $15,000-19,000 is cheep for a used AP1.These cars have already proven to hold their value over the majority of cars of the same years and list price new and for the performance you are getting. They will resemble the last tt Supras. Mid nineties car for 15-20 grand if your lucky and can find one. S2000 of any year will ever dip below $12,000 at their lowest point in time for a descent runner and I predict will eventualy go up in value as good ones become more scarce, regardless of what year they stop, will just take longer but is the enevatable. I didn't buy this car for a good investment really but it's good to see that these are holding their value much better then i expected and its an enthusuast car tried and true, therefor will be valuable as such in the futer.
You quoted 15,000 on the low side. I've seen many AP1s go below 15,000 on sale price and why would you pay 19,000 for an AP1? You have your prices wrong for todays market. The ranges you quoted would be good 2-3 years ago.

This car isn't a supra or limited production run. How can you compare it to a supra??

I know you want the s2k to retain its value or "appreciate" but I don't see it happening. Plenty of them out there for sale and driving around. There won't ever be a shortage of s2ks to buy in the forseeable future.
Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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only thing i like is that big front lip on it, hopefully that goes on sale once it come out?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by S2kInVaSi0n,Aug 19 2007, 04:58 PM
only thing i like is that big front lip on it, hopefully that goes on sale once it come out?
lol front lip wont be included im sure. hondas are cheapos since everyone loves the oem front lip soo much its going to be an accessory so they can make more moola ... probrably in the range of 400-500$ for that lip
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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i'm glad they didn't call it the S2000S
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Changes to the steering in the S2000 CR's steering system go beyond the steering ratio:


S2000 CR: A quicker steering ratio of 13.8:1 and added steering gear box stiffeners give the S2000 CR a more reflexive demeanor for the race track while providing elevated levels feedback to the driver. The power steering unit's mounting has been reinforced with stiffener brackets that connect to the front of the unit, the rear of the unit, and the front subframe. The steering mount bushings' firmness has been decreased to better match the quicker steering ratio


Hopefully this improves steering feel!

I may be interested in the CR just because of this lol
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Don't know about the reinforcments but the steering ratio is suppose to be the same as an Ap1. I didn't know that AP1 and 2 and difforent ratio's
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosmos,Aug 18 2007, 03:36 PM
Thanks for the infomation. The power indicator I haven't heard anything about and sounds interesting. I'm sure it's probably in that article I cannot read.
From VTEC.net:
"The digital readout for the speedometer maintains its familiar central location, and on the CR, a special green LED indicator is located just to the right of the speedo. The function of this LED is to indicate when the motor is operating in its range of maximum power output. The LED begins blinking when the revs are approaching the range of maximum power, and goes solid when it's in the range of maximum hp."

The article in general seems to reinforce my thought the this new CR version is going back to its S2000 roots after it was softened. Besides a two new braces (with one of them being in place of the softop) and some (IMO) ugly bolt-on body stuff, the CR is basically just reverting back to the hard-edged original AP1 version.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Aug 19 2007, 01:22 PM
This car isn't a supra or limited production run. How can you compare it to a supra??
Maybe he's referring to early hard-core (AP1) models that have the 9k redline. It's a truly special engine. In the long run, they are likely to be more sought after by collectors (especially the first model year ones). That said, I didn't buy the car for an investment, so at this point I'm not too concerned.



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