Definitive S2000 CR Thread
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Originally Posted by plokivos' date='Mar 16 2007, 03:19 PM
If s2000 dies, in my prediction, something just like it with V6 or more hp will come out from accura. They just can't keep the engine on the market forever. they need to move on after a while.
Even Evo has killed the fame 4g63, and that engine was just about perfect after 14 years of evolution.
but that's just me.
Even Evo has killed the fame 4g63, and that engine was just about perfect after 14 years of evolution.
but that's just me.
totally with that. newer is almost always better(after they work the kinks out). and if the rumor of honda upgrading the f20c with all the new ivtec goodness it should be quite a performer.i'm a huge huge huge fan of the 4g63t engine...its just so perfect..seriously up until a few years ago people were still putting on the original evo3 turbo...that thing is old as dirt and still had a following its ridiculous... also how else can you spend 5 grand on a 89 mitsu mirage gt and a 1990 4g63t out of an eclipse turbo and bam instant 12 second car...with standard mods the thing is easy 11 seconds...trust me its utterly retarded my friend did it and its so sick...
but just like mitsu with the new evo i really can't wait to see whats going to come from some of honda's new offerings like the rdx turbo engine...imagine that in an s2000...or something like an s2000 from acura...
the future is always exciting when it comes to new technology.
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Originally Posted by Back-cracker' date='Mar 16 2007, 04:37 PM
How do you know it's 20HP more, what if there wasn't any more power?
Of course, this isn't being called a Type-R and there may be a good reason for that.
I don't want to read much into the CR name (as club racing to me means a SCCA legal race car) but this is what I'd like the CR to be:
-Strengthed subframes/chassis/body
-Lighter weight (100kg+) in areas to lower the CG and keep handling balanced
-Slightly better seat design with a non-leather fabric (suede/alacantra/etc)
-Increased spring rate and damping, 15-25mm lower, stiffer sway bars
-Wider wheels and thicker tires
-15-25hp more, but with the same TB positioning as a non-CR model (so existing intakes work)
Stereo removal I can live with, AC would have to be at least optional and I'd personally prefer a soft top but could live with a HT I guess.. although I love having the top down..
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR' date='Mar 16 2007, 03:36 PM
This I wouldn't be surprised about, even though the Type-R formula has always been to have a decent power increase. I'm fine with stock power, but can't say I'd complain about 15-25hp more out of the box. If the motor is identical then motor mods should move right over though.
Of course, this isn't being called a Type-R and there may be a good reason for that.
I don't want to read much into the CR name (as club racing to me means a SCCA legal race car) but this is what I'd like the CR to be:
-Strengthed subframes/chassis/body
-Lighter weight (100kg+) in areas to lower the CG and keep handling balanced
-Slightly better seat design with a non-leather fabric (suede/alacantra/etc)
-Increased spring rate and damping, 15-25mm lower, stiffer sway bars
-Wider wheels and thicker tires
-15-25hp more, but with the same TB positioning as a non-CR model (so existing intakes work)
Stereo removal I can live with, AC would have to be at least optional and I'd personally prefer a soft top but could live with a HT I guess.. although I love having the top down..
Of course, this isn't being called a Type-R and there may be a good reason for that.
I don't want to read much into the CR name (as club racing to me means a SCCA legal race car) but this is what I'd like the CR to be:
-Strengthed subframes/chassis/body
-Lighter weight (100kg+) in areas to lower the CG and keep handling balanced
-Slightly better seat design with a non-leather fabric (suede/alacantra/etc)
-Increased spring rate and damping, 15-25mm lower, stiffer sway bars
-Wider wheels and thicker tires
-15-25hp more, but with the same TB positioning as a non-CR model (so existing intakes work)
Stereo removal I can live with, AC would have to be at least optional and I'd personally prefer a soft top but could live with a HT I guess.. although I love having the top down..
I firmly believe that the S2000 is a Type-R in it's own right. Anything more would be...uncivilized ;-) hehe
Can't wait to swap the suspension. :-)
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Type-R cars were all hopped up grocery getters to begin with. The S2000 was hopped up from the start. What were they going to do? Make a sport version of a sports car? The S2000 didn't start life as a car your granny might buy for it's economy and reliability.
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Originally Posted by cthree' date='Mar 16 2007, 10:58 PM
Type-R cars were all hopped up grocery getters to begin with. The S2000 was hopped up from the start. What were they going to do? Make a sport version of a sports car? The S2000 didn't start life as a car your granny might buy for it's economy and reliability.
Say what you will, but the ITR is a great car. The S2K is not the same IMO. I still love the S2K, but it's not that special. Flame all you want.. it has plenty of room for improvement.
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Originally Posted by plokivos' date='Mar 16 2007, 02:19 PM
what is the big deal about this car?
you could lose 200lbs or more with CF body panels, taking your sound supressing materials, AC and Radio components out of your car. I mean, if they're gonna do more hp, they should of done something dramatic, instead of making something slightly better(lighter, more whp) and a lot worst (no A/C, no radio) at the same time. Given that I don't use A/C that much, but it's something you may need, not just for cooling purpose but to get rid of the fogs on your windshield when it's raining outside. You can't just open your top when it's raining to be that unreasonable.
I'm sure the price wont justify what's being sold.
You could spend half of the money on the CR and get 3 times the whp, 20% less weight and 3 times the better suspension setup, and braking by doing your own thing with Subie 2.5rs.
you could lose 200lbs or more with CF body panels, taking your sound supressing materials, AC and Radio components out of your car. I mean, if they're gonna do more hp, they should of done something dramatic, instead of making something slightly better(lighter, more whp) and a lot worst (no A/C, no radio) at the same time. Given that I don't use A/C that much, but it's something you may need, not just for cooling purpose but to get rid of the fogs on your windshield when it's raining outside. You can't just open your top when it's raining to be that unreasonable.
I'm sure the price wont justify what's being sold.
You could spend half of the money on the CR and get 3 times the whp, 20% less weight and 3 times the better suspension setup, and braking by doing your own thing with Subie 2.5rs.
