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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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^You'd have to rev match before you put it into gear, so between your clutch/neutral/clutch, it'd have to be:
clutch/neutral/rev/clutch/4th
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gtg749m,Jan 20 2011, 05:24 PM
This is what I do and I'm not saying its the 'correct' way.

If I'm in 4th at 40 mph and can take the turn at 10-15 mph, I'll...
1) clutch out
2) brake
3) make the turn
4) while im making the turn I...
5) clutch in
6) rev match (b/c at this point my revs are at idle)
7) clutch out and go

And I know good practice is to downshift all the way to the turn, so your car is always in gear just in case, but I'm lazy like that
Whaaaaa?? Are you joking?
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodson,Jan 20 2011, 04:07 PM
Whaaaaa?? Are you joking?
No?
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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I read this thread and I understand why so many S2000s are wrecked each year, and why snap oversteer is a frequent occurence. So many people just don't know how to drive.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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honda TSB recommends you do not skip gears going up or down, for preservation of synchros.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Jan 20 2011, 02:22 PM
not true, the S loves to fall into a certain gear at a certain RPM. I double clutch rev match upshifts and my transmission loves me for it.
Your clutch is wondering why you're giving it such a workout for no good reason.

You're doing it wrong, and upshifts are taking a lot more time and effort than required, and your transmission isn't benefiting one iota versus doing it RIGHT.


This thread makes me think (hope) that a lot of you guys are JOKING.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gtg749m,Jan 20 2011, 03:24 PM
This is what I do and I'm not saying its the 'correct' way.

If I'm in 4th at 40 mph and can take the turn at 10-15 mph, I'll...
1) clutch out
2) brake
3) make the turn
4) while im making the turn I...
5) clutch in
6) rev match (b/c at this point my revs are at idle)
7) clutch out and go

And I know good practice is to downshift all the way to the turn, so your car is always in gear just in case, but I'm lazy like that
You shouldn't be spending any more time time with the clutch disengaged than is required to shift. The only time the drivetrain should be disengaged for any time beyond that is when you come to a stop.

By the time you begin the turn, you should be in the appropriate gear with the clutch engaged. Clutching and shifting to engage the right gear while you're in the turn is *extremely* poor form! And if you're lazy (I am too), doing it *right* is the easier more natural way anyway.

Being in mid-turn and not having the drivetrain engaged and in the right gear is NOT where you want to be. You want to only be dealing with the brake pedal and transitioning to the gas pedal, no declutching and shifting going on at all, from just before you begin the turn throught to its exit.

Disengaging or engaging the clutch while turning is a bad habit, so BREAK IT.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Jan 20 2011, 03:57 PM
Your clutch is wondering why you're giving it such a workout for no good reason.

You're doing it wrong, and upshifts are taking a lot more time and effort than required, and your transmission isn't benefiting one iota versus doing it RIGHT.


This thread makes me think (hope) that a lot of you guys are JOKING.


I dont really care so much about the clutch, I change it out myself. I am slightly worried about my thrust bearing but I figure it should be fine since I'm running an OEM PP.

My upshifts dont take any more time than just "waiting" for the right pause. Tell me why matching input shaft and vehicle speed is not going to help take the wear off of my transmission . You can always use the "synchros are there, use it..." argument but thats totally bs. You can use the "well if you pause slightly...." argument, but as I said Hawaii roads are TERRIBLE and I hate letting off the clutch while hitting a bad stretch of road so I cant keep the shift pause consistent.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 06:18 PM
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[QUOTE=ikeyballz,Jan 20 2011, 06:47 PM]My upshifts dont take any more time than just "waiting" for the right pause.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Jan 20 2011, 06:47 PM
I dont really care so much about the clutch, I change it out myself. I am slightly worried about my thrust bearing but I figure it should be fine since I'm running an OEM PP.
How many times have you had to change the clutch?

FWIW, I'm at 114k miles and 20+ track days on the original clutch. The original transmission synchros are still working perfectly well, too.
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