question about rev matching
Originally Posted by ZDan,Jan 20 2011, 05:23 PM
How many times have you had to change the clutch?
FWIW, I'm at 114k miles and 20+ track days on the original clutch. The original transmission synchros are still working perfectly well, too.
FWIW, I'm at 114k miles and 20+ track days on the original clutch. The original transmission synchros are still working perfectly well, too.
I understand its ok to not DC rev-match upshift, but your argument is like arguing against the 3K mile oil changes. Sure, its excessive but it is probably better for the engine in the long (possibly so long that theres no point..) run.
Also, I got this car 2nd hand so who knows what damage the synchros have already endured. I bought it off of a ricer who cut springs, rolled fenders, put 19s on it..etc. Luckily, it appears he didnt hit Vtec often since the vtec cams werent used.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is does it help? possibly. Does it hurt? No.
OP asked what it was, I just said how I do it whether YOU agree or not, I could care less.
It makes my car shift buttery. I shift normally sometimes, when I'm feeling lazy or when theres situations where I need to accelerate quicker. Its also much more consistent than pausing between shifts. I can get buttery smooth shifts even when the transmission is cold, doing it this way.
If you do it the normal method, perfect shifts are highly dependent on trans temp, engine temp, and RPM. The input shaft will slow down at different rates according to those things, at least thats the case for my car.
Oh this thread is bad... I need to mount my camera and show some of you guys how to drive.
nm, just watch this (watch his feet and listen to what the engine and gears are doing)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx_TecmQHoM [/media]
nm, just watch this (watch his feet and listen to what the engine and gears are doing)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx_TecmQHoM [/media]
Originally Posted by FutureDevilDog,Jan 20 2011, 07:36 PM
some good old fashion practice will do that too.
If you are questioning my ability to drive a manual....
I learned how to drive stick when I was 13 on a 5 speed '85 280ZX. I took my drivers test in a manual 87 corolla. I had a 1975 pickup with a rod operated clutch, a 1995 neon with a cable operated clutch, a 97 SS with a hydraulic (normal) clutch, and now I have this S. I learned how to heel-toe when I was 16-17, I learned how to no-clutch up/down shift around the same time. I've driven mostly any common car that comes in manual, since I happen to be the "car guy" and friends usually ask me to drive their car if they're drunk or fix their car, or to check a manual car to see if its working properly.
Originally Posted by gtg749m,Jan 20 2011, 03:24 PM
This is what I do and I'm not saying its the 'correct' way.
If I'm in 4th at 40 mph and can take the turn at 10-15 mph, I'll...
1) clutch out
2) brake
3) make the turn
4) while im making the turn I...
5) clutch in
6) rev match (b/c at this point my revs are at idle)
7) clutch out and go
And I know good practice is to downshift all the way to the turn, so your car is always in gear just in case, but I'm lazy like that
If I'm in 4th at 40 mph and can take the turn at 10-15 mph, I'll...
1) clutch out
2) brake
3) make the turn
4) while im making the turn I...
5) clutch in
6) rev match (b/c at this point my revs are at idle)
7) clutch out and go
And I know good practice is to downshift all the way to the turn, so your car is always in gear just in case, but I'm lazy like that



