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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Mar 25 2008, 10:55 AM
I don't wanna be the fastest...just faster than the soccer mom in the 3 ton crew cab pickup.
And you will be, on the track or in a canyon.

But at the light, you want to be faster than the soccer mom in one of the fastest trucks on the market with 401 lb.-ft of peak torque at 3,600 rpm. That'll be harder. I think one publication was actually able to hit 5.8 0-60 in the tundra, but I'm not sure.

It'll always be easier for manufacturers to cram in huge engines on a bigger chassis when they don't have to consider handling and weight distribution so much. Hell there's probably enough room to add a "factory rocket pack" on the tundra. Then we'd really be standing there with our pants down, until the first turn anyway. Pretty much all non-sports vehicles have closed the divide between their sport brethren as technology has improved.

But yeah, I do agree with what you're saying.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Riceboi,Mar 25 2008, 09:24 AM
here's how the OP (snmalone) looks hahahahahah


lol....damn why do you know how i look like..you guessed it!

and as you cann see i removed the type r stickers on my old teggy, it would have been way tooo fast then or maybe it was so fast because of the crappy rota rims...who knows....

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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These types of inane arguments pop up all the time don't they? I think most of us can agree that the S isn't that fast. It never was, and that's because it was engineered to have a certain power-to-weight ratio and nothing more. If you want a faster car, just buy one. It's that simple.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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buy a vette
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 25 2008, 09:08 AM
Load on the motor.
ALL supercharged/turbocharged Fords exceed 100% load once they hit boost (I'm a tuner, this is something I am an expert at). It's not just in 5th or 6th gear that the engine exceeds 100% load. Load is a measurement of airflow and tells the EEC which rows to reference in the fuel and timing tables.

So again I ask, what on earth did you mean?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmies,Mar 25 2008, 12:30 PM
ALL supercharged/turbocharged Fords exceed 100% load once they hit boost (I'm a tuner, this is something I am an expert at). It's not just in 5th or 6th gear that the engine exceeds 100% load. Load is a measurement of airflow and tells the EEC which rows to reference in the fuel and timing tables.

So again I ask, what on earth did you mean?
What then, may I ask, do you think a transmission does?

5th and 6th are overdrive gears, you can look at the gear ratio's and tell that.

You obviously haven't grasped the concept of blowing your motor up. I feel sorry for anyone who buys a car from you.

And to completely trump the s2k's have higher top end statement...

the SCTA C/PS WORLD LAND SPEED RECORD HOLDER: 213.121 MPH is an 03 cobra. Street legal, I might add.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 25 2008, 12:53 PM

5th and 6th are overdrive gears, you can look at the gear ratio's and tell that.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimmies,Mar 25 2008, 01:03 PM
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
My entire topic was about the guy saying s2k's have a higher top speed than his heavily modded termy. The reasoning behind that is:

When the motor is under wot, it is generating a bunch of heat causing the pistons to expand into the cylinder walls. 03-04 cobra motors have a .001 piston to wall clearance.
You will melt the pistons if you stay in boost in 5th and 6th in a termy.

The race should be over by 4th gear. And in the case of a termy vs an s2000, the s2k will have to reach 150+ to catch up because the termy will blow by it like it was tied to a stump. From a roll, from a dig, doesn't matter.

Back to the OP. You bought the wrong kind of car. Lateral g is the same in ap1's and terminators. Uou should have got the ford. Blow the doors off people in a straight line, and take twisties just as well as the s2k!

Have we even begun talking about how easy and cheap it is to mod a cobra?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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i like how the OP has rolled with the ricer boy/ bad driver comments.

my friend with a DC5 type S: intake, full titanium exhaust and hondata reflash is still not quicker in a strait line. he is more reckless in the canyon and on the street, the car still demands a lot of respect. i dont feel comfortable pushing it on the street, probably because I still owe 10K for it... and I dont have time to drive it on a track... shame really.

I still get more smiles per gallon out of this car. I drove a ruff (full suspension, intake and exhaust) AW11 and SW20 with no power steering and I still feel like this car is more raw and balanced. I flogged the snot out of that car in the twisties, but i never felt as connected, even in a MR configuration.

Im sorry you dont feel the same connection most others on this board get when they drive their cars, up a steep incline this car can feel like a bit of a turd due to the torqueless wonder of the F20. You can trade it in for a EVO or something but i dont think you will be as pleased.

Try getting suspension, gears, intake(ITBs), headers and exhaust since turbo seems to be a no go. Do lots of research on your parts, if you choose to go that route, or you might feel even more cheated.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GroovyNeilNeil,Mar 25 2008, 02:14 PM
Have we even begun talking about how easy and cheap it is to mod a cobra?
No, because, guess what? The name of the forum is "S2000 Talk". There's also a "Car Talk" forum, which is the correct place to talk about a Cobra.
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